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2011-01-31 14:47Stephen Russell : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 15:10Ricardo Aráoz : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 15:12Ricardo Aráoz : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 15:25Stephen Russell : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 16:41Nicholas Geti : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 17:33Ricardo Araoz : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 17:33Ricardo Araoz : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 20:38Dan Covill : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 20:45Michael Madigan : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
2011-01-31 20:47Michael Madigan : Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest
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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-01-31 14:47:35   Link

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Nicholas Geti <ngeti@optonline.net> wrote:

> http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

>

> Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to lead Egypt. His background indicates he is working with the Muslim Brotherhood on the side of Iran. "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>

> This could be very dangerous for the world.

----------------

Is it more dangerous if the USA stops the citizens of Egypt from

ousting a leader who was skimming from the top, middle and bottom of

the trough?

This is a going to be a real change for all leaders in the Middle

East. Every country will now have it's citizens thinking that with a

cell phone and a twitter account they can change the nature of the

ruling party.

Instability, we have seen nothing yet. When military bullets start to

rip the flesh of citizens is what we all have to fear.

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Ricardo Aráoz

Posted: 2011-01-31 15:10:14   Link

On 31/01/2011 04:07 p.m., Nicholas Geti wrote:

> http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

>

> Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to lead Egypt. His background indicates he is working with the Muslim Brotherhood on the side of Iran. "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>

> This could be very dangerous for the world.

Nope.

For your country's plans maybe.

What's **very** dangerous for the world is a supposedly democratic

powerful country backing up tyrants.

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Ricardo Aráoz

Posted: 2011-01-31 15:12:48   Link

On 31/01/2011 04:47 p.m., Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Nicholas Geti<ngeti@optonline.net> wrote:

>> http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

>>

>> Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to lead Egypt. His background indicates he is working with the Muslim Brotherhood on the side of Iran. "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>>

>> This could be very dangerous for the world.

> ----------------

>

> Is it more dangerous if the USA stops the citizens of Egypt from

> ousting a leader who was skimming from the top, middle and bottom of

> the trough?

>

> This is a going to be a real change for all leaders in the Middle

> East. Every country will now have it's citizens thinking that with a

> cell phone and a twitter account they can change the nature of the

> ruling party.

>

> Instability, we have seen nothing yet. When military bullets start to

> rip the flesh of citizens is what we all have to fear.

You don't seem to get it Stephen.

Democracy is ok for WASP countries, not for underdeveloped muslim ones.

Specially if USA want's to control their oil/minerals/etc.

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-01-31 15:25:41   Link

2011/1/31 Ricardo Aráoz <ricaraoz@gmail.com>:

> On 31/01/2011 04:47 p.m., Stephen Russell wrote:

>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Nicholas Geti<ngeti@optonline.net>  wrote:

>>> http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

>>>

>>> Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to lead Egypt. His background indicates he is working with the Muslim Brotherhood on the side of Iran. "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>>>

>>> This could be very dangerous for the world.

>> ----------------

>>

>> Is it more dangerous if the USA stops the citizens of Egypt from

>> ousting a leader who was skimming from the top, middle and bottom of

>> the trough?

>>

>> This is a going to be a real change for all leaders in the Middle

>> East.  Every country will now have it's citizens thinking that with a

>> cell phone and a twitter account they can change the nature of the

>> ruling party.

>>

>> Instability, we have seen nothing yet.  When military bullets start to

>> rip the flesh of citizens is what we all have to fear.

>

> You don't seem to get it Stephen.

>  Democracy is ok for WASP countries, not for underdeveloped muslim ones.

> Specially if USA want's to control their oil/minerals/etc.

-------------------

I think Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and the U.A.E could have a youth

instability as well. All for different reasons but they still happen.

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Nicholas Geti

Posted: 2011-01-31 16:41:34   Link

You are assuming that democracy will occur here. I don't think that is a

given.

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> On 31/01/2011 04:47 p.m., Stephen Russell wrote:

>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Nicholas Geti<ngeti@optonline.net>

>> wrote:

>>> http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

>>>

>>> Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to lead Egypt. His

>>> background indicates he is working with the Muslim Brotherhood on the

>>> side of Iran. "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded

>>> Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has]

>>> continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or

>>> other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a

>>> nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>>>

>>> This could be very dangerous for the world.

>> ----------------

>>

>> Is it more dangerous if the USA stops the citizens of Egypt from

>> ousting a leader who was skimming from the top, middle and bottom of

>> the trough?

>>

>> This is a going to be a real change for all leaders in the Middle

>> East. Every country will now have it's citizens thinking that with a

>> cell phone and a twitter account they can change the nature of the

>> ruling party.

>>

>> Instability, we have seen nothing yet. When military bullets start to

>> rip the flesh of citizens is what we all have to fear.

>

> You don't seem to get it Stephen.

> Democracy is ok for WASP countries, not for underdeveloped muslim ones.

> Specially if USA want's to control their oil/minerals/etc.

>

>

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Ricardo Araoz

Posted: 2011-01-31 17:33:29   Link

El 31/01/11 18:41, Nicholas Geti escribió:

> You are assuming that democracy will occur here. I don't think that is a

> given.

Nope, what's more, I'm convinced it never occurred there.

I was highlighting the hypocrite speech that continually says USA is a

"free country".

You don't even have proper unions! Your employees have no rights and

always have to negotiate from a disadvantageous position, not able to

draw from the power of numbers (whilst companies draw from the power of

numberless dollars).

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Ricardo Araoz

Posted: 2011-01-31 17:33:42   Link

El 31/01/11 17:25, Stephen Russell escribió:

> 2011/1/31 Ricardo Aráoz <ricaraoz@gmail.com>:

>> On 31/01/2011 04:47 p.m., Stephen Russell wrote:

>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Nicholas Geti<ngeti@optonline.net> wrote:

>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

>>>>

>>>> Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to lead Egypt. His background indicates he is working with the Muslim Brotherhood on the side of Iran. "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>>>>

>>>> This could be very dangerous for the world.

>>> ----------------

>>>

>>> Is it more dangerous if the USA stops the citizens of Egypt from

>>> ousting a leader who was skimming from the top, middle and bottom of

>>> the trough?

>>>

>>> This is a going to be a real change for all leaders in the Middle

>>> East. Every country will now have it's citizens thinking that with a

>>> cell phone and a twitter account they can change the nature of the

>>> ruling party.

>>>

>>> Instability, we have seen nothing yet. When military bullets start to

>>> rip the flesh of citizens is what we all have to fear.

>> You don't seem to get it Stephen.

>> Democracy is ok for WASP countries, not for underdeveloped muslim ones.

>> Specially if USA want's to control their oil/minerals/etc.

> -------------------

>

> I think Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and the U.A.E could have a youth

> instability as well. All for different reasons but they still happen.

And they should be left alone to learn from their own mistakes. A suit

won't fit everyone.

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2011-01-31 20:38:37   Link

From the original post:

> "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

Not sure who Carolyn Glick is, but she's full of sh*t! ElBaradei was

one of the few good guys in the runup to the Iraq war, and has

consistently worked for moderation in the region.

I looked up Glick. She appears to be a pro-Israel hard-liner.

Dan Covill

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2011-01-31 20:45:35   Link

Are you insane?

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Dan Covill <dcovill@san.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Dan Covill <dcovill@san.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>

> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:38 PM

> From the original post:

> > "As IAEA head," Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei

> shielded Iran's nuclear weapons program from the Security

> Council. He [has] continued to lobby against significant UN

> Security Council sanctions or other actions against

> Iran...Last week, he dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed

> Iran [saying] 'there is a lot of hype in this debate'."

>

> Not sure who Carolyn Glick is, but she's full of

> sh*t!  ElBaradei was

> one of the few good guys in the runup to the Iraq war, and

> has

> consistently worked for moderation in the region.

>

> I looked up Glick.  She appears to be a pro-Israel

> hard-liner.

>

> Dan Covill

> San Diego

>

>

>

>

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Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2011-01-31 20:47:29   Link

Were you drunk throughout the fall of the Shah?

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [OT] Egyptian unrest

> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>

> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 2:47 PM

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM,

> Nicholas Geti <ngeti@optonline.net>

> wrote:

> > http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/egypt-protest-hosni-mubarak/2011/01/30/id/384397

> >

> > Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei is proclaiming he is ready to

> lead Egypt. His background indicates he is working with the

> Muslim Brotherhood on the side of Iran. "As IAEA head,"

> Carolyn Glick writes, "Elbaradei shielded Iran's nuclear

> weapons program from the Security Council. He [has]

> continued to lobby against significant UN Security Council

> sanctions or other actions against Iran...Last week, he

> dismissed the threat of a nuclear armed Iran [saying] 'there

> is a lot of hype in this debate'."

> >

> > This could be very dangerous for the world.

> ----------------

>

> Is it more dangerous if the USA stops the citizens of Egypt

> from

> ousting a leader who was skimming from the top, middle and

> bottom of

> the trough?

>

> This is a going to be a real change for all leaders in the

> Middle

> East.  Every country will now have it's citizens

> thinking that with a

> cell phone and a twitter account they can change the nature

> of the

> ruling party.

>

> Instability, we have seen nothing yet.  When military

> bullets start to

> rip the flesh of citizens is what we all have to fear.

>

>

> --

> Stephen Russell

>

> Sr. Production Systems Programmer

> CIMSgts

>

> 901.246-0159 cell

>

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