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2010-07-29 20:49Steve Ellenoff : INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-29 21:56Vincent Teachout : Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-29 23:11Lew : Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-30 00:15Steve Ellenoff : Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-30 02:14Steve Ellenoff : Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-30 02:26Dave Crozier : RE: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-30 04:14John Weller : RE: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-30 05:58msavage@golden.net: Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
2010-07-30 08:42Rafael Copquin : Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE
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INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Steve Ellenoff

Posted: 2010-07-29 20:49:37   Link

Is there any difference between these two?

I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that effect.

Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

INTO TABLE ?

Thanks for any insight-

Steve

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Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Vincent Teachout

Posted: 2010-07-29 21:56:31   Link

Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> Is there any difference between these two?

>

> I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

> SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

> like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that effect.

>

> Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

> INTO TABLE ?

If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

my head.

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Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Lew

Posted: 2010-07-29 23:11:24   Link

READWRITE alone is enough.

USE (DBF(<cursorname>))

...was a workaround that preceded READWRITE & NOFILTER.

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Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> Is there any difference between these two?

>

> I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

> SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

> like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that effect.

>

> Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

> INTO TABLE ?

If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

my head.

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Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Steve Ellenoff

Posted: 2010-07-30 00:15:30   Link

Thanks Vince & Lew!

I just found this line in the VFP helpfile:

"NOFILTER creates a cursor that can be used in subsequent queries."

So it would seem READWRITE NOFILTER is the proper equivalent to INTO TABLE..

-Steve

At 09:56 PM 07/29/2010, you wrote:

>Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> > Is there any difference between these two?

> >

> > I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

> > SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

> > like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that effect.

> >

> > Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

> > INTO TABLE ?

>

>If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

>cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

>DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

>my head.

>

>

>

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Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Steve Ellenoff

Posted: 2010-07-30 02:14:44   Link

HMM... More testing reveals the following oddities:

You can ZAP a cursor created with READWRITE NOFILTER, but you CANNOT

issue a PACK.

That would be a significant difference from INTO TABLE if you need to

delete a bunch of records and then wish to pack the table.

@ Vince - I tried doing the USE (DBF("cursorname")) trick, but it

wouldn't work, since if I closed the cursor, the file was erased, and

if I left it open, it said it was already being used?

At 12:15 AM 07/30/2010, you wrote:

>Thanks Vince & Lew!

>

>I just found this line in the VFP helpfile:

>"NOFILTER creates a cursor that can be used in subsequent queries."

>

>So it would seem READWRITE NOFILTER is the proper equivalent to INTO TABLE..

>

>-Steve

>

>

>At 09:56 PM 07/29/2010, you wrote:

> >Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> > > Is there any difference between these two?

> > >

> > > I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

> > > SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

> > > like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that effect.

> > >

> > > Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

> > > INTO TABLE ?

> >

> >If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

> >cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

> >DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

> >my head.

> >

> >

> >

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RE: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Dave Crozier

Posted: 2010-07-30 02:26:57   Link

Steve,

The Readwrite does in fact override the Nofilter option so nofilter isn't

actually needed. The act of making a cursor readwrite means that a physical

copy is made on disk/memory so the caching problem that nofilter was meant

to overcome isn't in fact present as a true copy of the selected data is

made.

Dave C

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HMM... More testing reveals the following oddities:

You can ZAP a cursor created with READWRITE NOFILTER, but you CANNOT

issue a PACK.

That would be a significant difference from INTO TABLE if you need to

delete a bunch of records and then wish to pack the table.

@ Vince - I tried doing the USE (DBF("cursorname")) trick, but it

wouldn't work, since if I closed the cursor, the file was erased, and

if I left it open, it said it was already being used?

At 12:15 AM 07/30/2010, you wrote:

>Thanks Vince & Lew!

>

>I just found this line in the VFP helpfile:

>"NOFILTER creates a cursor that can be used in subsequent queries."

>

>So it would seem READWRITE NOFILTER is the proper equivalent to INTO

TABLE..

>

>-Steve

>

>

>At 09:56 PM 07/29/2010, you wrote:

> >Steve Ellenoff wrote:

> > > Is there any difference between these two?

> > >

> > > I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

> > > SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

> > > like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that

effect.

> > >

> > > Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

> > > INTO TABLE ?

> >

> >If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

> >cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

> >DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

> >my head.

> >

> >

> >

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RE: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: John Weller

Posted: 2010-07-30 04:14:21   Link

A cursor is created in memory. The only time it will have a physical

presence (if one can call magnetic states on a hard drive a physical

presence) is when it is created in virtual memory on the hard drive. Either

way it is erased when closed unlike a table. It is only intended for

temporary storage so there is no benefit from PACKing it. If you want to

retain the data, perhaps for debugging, then you must use a table - but

remember to delete it when you have finished with it or you will get errors.

John Weller

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>

> HMM... More testing reveals the following oddities:

>

> You can ZAP a cursor created with READWRITE NOFILTER, but you CANNOT

> issue a PACK.

>

> That would be a significant difference from INTO TABLE if you need to

> delete a bunch of records and then wish to pack the table.

>

> @ Vince - I tried doing the USE (DBF("cursorname")) trick, but it

> wouldn't work, since if I closed the cursor, the file was erased, and

> if I left it open, it said it was already being used?

>

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Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: msavage@golden.net

Posted: 2010-07-30 05:58:21   Link

If you need to remove deleted records, ie issue a pack, on the readwrite

cursor this will do the trick.

SELECT * FROM CursorName WHERE NOT DELETED() INTO CURSOR CursorName

READWRITE.

Voila! Cursor has no deleted records.

Caveat! If the cursor is tied to a grid, you may find that all of your

grid settings go away. Look up "SAFE SELECT" article on UT to have a way

get around this issue.

HTH,

Mike

> Thanks Vince & Lew!

>

> I just found this line in the VFP helpfile:

> "NOFILTER creates a cursor that can be used in subsequent queries."

>

> So it would seem READWRITE NOFILTER is the proper equivalent to INTO

> TABLE..

>

> -Steve

>

>

> At 09:56 PM 07/29/2010, you wrote:

>>Steve Ellenoff wrote:

>> > Is there any difference between these two?

>> >

>> > I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

>> > SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

>> > like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that

>> effect.

>> >

>> > Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

>> > INTO TABLE ?

>>

>>If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

>>cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

>>DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

>>my head.

>>

>>

>>

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Re: INTO TABLE vs INTO CURSOR READWRITE

Author: Rafael Copquin

Posted: 2010-07-30 08:42:47   Link

I found that the best way to delete records from a readwrite cursor

bound to a grid is as follows:

select (fieldlist) from (disktable) into cursor curGridCursor readwrite

nofilter

(the above populares grid1, then you can delete records from it, do

other operations, etc.)

At the time of showing the grid back, without the deleted records, call

a delete method in your form with the following code:

** delete method

thisform.grid1.recordsource = ''

use in select('curTemp')

select * from curGridCursor into cursor curTemp where not deleted()

select curGridCursor

zap

append from dbf('curTemp')

use in select('curTemp')

with thisform.grid1

.recordsource = 'curGridCursor'

.column1.controlsource = 'curGridCursor.field1'

.column2.controlsource = 'curGridCursor.field2'

etc

endwith

In this manner, the grid never looses its settings, you do not see the

deleted record mark in the grid and you can go back to your regular

operations "unscathed" (:->).

Rafael Copquin

El 30/07/2010 6:58, msavage@golden.net escribió:

> If you need to remove deleted records, ie issue a pack, on the readwrite

> cursor this will do the trick.

>

> SELECT * FROM CursorName WHERE NOT DELETED() INTO CURSOR CursorName

> READWRITE.

>

> Voila! Cursor has no deleted records.

>

> Caveat! If the cursor is tied to a grid, you may find that all of your

> grid settings go away. Look up "SAFE SELECT" article on UT to have a way

> get around this issue.

>

> HTH,

> Mike

>

>

>> Thanks Vince& Lew!

>>

>> I just found this line in the VFP helpfile:

>> "NOFILTER creates a cursor that can be used in subsequent queries."

>>

>> So it would seem READWRITE NOFILTER is the proper equivalent to INTO

>> TABLE..

>>

>> -Steve

>>

>>

>> At 09:56 PM 07/29/2010, you wrote:

>>

>>> Steve Ellenoff wrote:

>>>

>>>> Is there any difference between these two?

>>>>

>>>> I'm looking at some older code and I have remarks about the SELECT

>>>> SQL using INTO TABLE to avoid some VFP errors that says something

>>>> like, "Command cannot be issued on a cursor" or something to that

>>>>

>>> effect.

>>>

>>>> Would changing my code to CURSOR READWRITE work equally well as the

>>>> INTO TABLE ?

>>>>

>>> If you used tables to avoid "operation can not be performed on a

>>> cursor," I would think you could do CURSOR READWRITE, followed by USE

>>> DBF("MyCursor") ALIAS Bob, and do whatever on Bob. Just off the top of

>>> my head.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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