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2010-07-18 08:57 – william : [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-18 12:39 – Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-19 06:20 – william : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-19 07:38 – Rafael Copquin : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-19 09:13 – Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-19 10:01 – Malcolm Greene : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-19 10:23 – Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-19 10:40 – Stephen Russell : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-22 08:15 – william : Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
2010-07-22 08:21 – Richard Kaye : RE: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!
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[NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: william

Posted: 2010-07-18 08:57:45   Link

RUNNING A DOS 6.22 APP UNDER WIN98 & OS/2 GIVES A FULL PHYSICAL SCREEN

PRESENTATION WHILE IN THE DOS VIRTUAL MACHINE. THE SAME CODE UNDER WIN

2K, AND WIN XP RUNS IN A WIN ONLY HALF THE FULL SCREEN DEEP, WITH

SUITABLY COMPRESSED FONTS. THIS HAPPENS WHETHER THE EXE IS LINKED FROM

OBJECTS THAT DERIVED FROM MS-C-5.1 OR DATA BASE LANGUAGES FROM THE SAME

ERA.

CAN ANYONE HELP !

TIA

WILLIAM TORMEY

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2010-07-18 12:39:51   Link

Stop shouting I'm right here!

I take it you mean it's in fullscreen mode but not taking up the full

screen?

Start it, hit Alt-Enter to Windowise it. In the window's menu (click on

top left) select 'Properties'. In there go to the 'Layout' tab. In the

'Window Size' section, set the height to 50. Then close and elect to use

the settings for all window or whatever it is that you will get asked.

See if that helps.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:57 +0100, "william"

<supportforamlireland@indigo.ie> wrote:

> RUNNING A DOS 6.22 APP UNDER WIN98 & OS/2 GIVES A FULL PHYSICAL SCREEN

> PRESENTATION WHILE IN THE DOS VIRTUAL MACHINE. THE SAME CODE UNDER WIN

> 2K, AND WIN XP RUNS IN A WIN ONLY HALF THE FULL SCREEN DEEP, WITH

> SUITABLY COMPRESSED FONTS. THIS HAPPENS WHETHER THE EXE IS LINKED FROM

> OBJECTS THAT DERIVED FROM MS-C-5.1 OR DATA BASE LANGUAGES FROM THE SAME

> ERA.

>

> CAN ANYONE HELP !

> TIA

> WILLIAM TORMEY

>

>

>

>

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: william

Posted: 2010-07-19 06:20:12   Link

Hi Alan:

With suitably lowered voice, and down cast eyes ! and Real Thanks.

The table below indicates Vars. ALL possible combinations tried.

It takes the settings shown to get Size Indicator Win to show full while

changing width and height settings. Default will hold it's settings

but Properties wont. They revert to 80/50, however the width does set to

full screen but the height stays at about 45% of full screen. Totally

weird the Prg now loads with a selection from its first menu already

made ??.

William

Console Windows Properties/ Defaults for NTVDM.exe

Scrn Buf Win size Win Pos LWP Def Prp Opts

W 164 164 0 0 no/yes y/n y/n FS/Win

H 66 66 0 0 no/yes y/n y/n FC/Win

Restarting does not help.

On Sun, 2010-07-18 at 17:39 +0100, Alan Bourke wrote:

> Stop shouting I'm right here!

>

> I take it you mean it's in fullscreen mode but not taking up the full

> screen?

>

> Start it, hit Alt-Enter to Windowise it. In the window's menu (click on

> top left) select 'Properties'. In there go to the 'Layout' tab. In the

> 'Window Size' section, set the height to 50. Then close and elect to use

> the settings for all window or whatever it is that you will get asked.

> See if that helps.

>

>

>

> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:57 +0100, "william"

> <supportforamlireland@indigo.ie> wrote:

> > RUNNING A DOS 6.22 APP UNDER WIN98 & OS/2 GIVES A FULL PHYSICAL SCREEN

> > PRESENTATION WHILE IN THE DOS VIRTUAL MACHINE. THE SAME CODE UNDER WIN

> > 2K, AND WIN XP RUNS IN A WIN ONLY HALF THE FULL SCREEN DEEP, WITH

> > SUITABLY COMPRESSED FONTS. THIS HAPPENS WHETHER THE EXE IS LINKED FROM

> > OBJECTS THAT DERIVED FROM MS-C-5.1 OR DATA BASE LANGUAGES FROM THE SAME

> > ERA.

> >

> > CAN ANYONE HELP !

> > TIA

> > WILLIAM TORMEY

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Rafael Copquin

Posted: 2010-07-19 07:38:30   Link

When I was using XP Prof I did the following:

Right-click the DOS application icon, you will see a pageframe with the

following pages:

Program --- mark close on exit

Compatibility --- choose XP

Memory --- set XMS to whatever size you need

Screen -- choose full screen

It worked very well in XP. However, I am now using Windows 7 and it

won't accept full screen.

Hope this helps.

BTW, I'm not THAT old (:-)

Rafael Copquin

El 19/07/2010 7:20, william escribió:

> Hi Alan:

> With suitably lowered voice, and down cast eyes ! and Real Thanks.

>

> The table below indicates Vars. ALL possible combinations tried.

> It takes the settings shown to get Size Indicator Win to show full while

> changing width and height settings. Default will hold it's settings

> but Properties wont. They revert to 80/50, however the width does set to

> full screen but the height stays at about 45% of full screen. Totally

> weird the Prg now loads with a selection from its first menu already

> made ??.

> William

>

>

> Console Windows Properties/ Defaults for NTVDM.exe

> Scrn Buf Win size Win Pos LWP Def Prp Opts

> W 164 164 0 0 no/yes y/n y/n FS/Win

> H 66 66 0 0 no/yes y/n y/n FC/Win

>

> Restarting does not help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, 2010-07-18 at 17:39 +0100, Alan Bourke wrote:

>

>> Stop shouting I'm right here!

>>

>> I take it you mean it's in fullscreen mode but not taking up the full

>> screen?

>>

>> Start it, hit Alt-Enter to Windowise it. In the window's menu (click on

>> top left) select 'Properties'. In there go to the 'Layout' tab. In the

>> 'Window Size' section, set the height to 50. Then close and elect to use

>> the settings for all window or whatever it is that you will get asked.

>> See if that helps.

>>

>>

>>

>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:57 +0100, "william"

>> <supportforamlireland@indigo.ie> wrote:

>>

>>> RUNNING A DOS 6.22 APP UNDER WIN98& OS/2 GIVES A FULL PHYSICAL SCREEN

>>> PRESENTATION WHILE IN THE DOS VIRTUAL MACHINE. THE SAME CODE UNDER WIN

>>> 2K, AND WIN XP RUNS IN A WIN ONLY HALF THE FULL SCREEN DEEP, WITH

>>> SUITABLY COMPRESSED FONTS. THIS HAPPENS WHETHER THE EXE IS LINKED FROM

>>> OBJECTS THAT DERIVED FROM MS-C-5.1 OR DATA BASE LANGUAGES FROM THE SAME

>>> ERA.

>>>

>>> CAN ANYONE HELP !

>>> TIA

>>> WILLIAM TORMEY

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2010-07-19 09:13:28   Link

IIRC Vista and 7 won't run DOS apps in fullscreen because the new

display model used doesn't support it.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:38 -0300, "Rafael Copquin"

<rcopquin@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:

>

> It worked very well in XP. However, I am now using Windows 7 and it

> won't accept full screen.

IIRC Vista and 7 won't run DOS apps in fullscreen because the new

display model (WDM) used doesn't support it.

Regarding the problem, there might be some BIOS settings that can affect

it.

Also try creating a batch file thus:

mode con lines=25

myexe.exe

And running that instead of myexe.exe directly.

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Malcolm Greene

Posted: 2010-07-19 10:01:21   Link

What about creating a free VM (virtual machine) and running the

application in there? I recommend VMware.

Malcolm

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2010-07-19 10:23:53   Link

I doubt that will go fullscreen in text mode.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:01 -0400, "Malcolm Greene" <profox@bdurham.com>

wrote:

I doubt that will go fullscreen in text mode.

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2010-07-19 10:40:31   Link

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> I doubt that will go fullscreen in text mode.

>

> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:01 -0400, "Malcolm Greene" <profox@bdurham.com>

> wrote:

>

> I doubt that will go fullscreen in text mode.

> --

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Porting the app to anything new has got to suck. Been there and done

that. :( I left the app in DOS.

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Re: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: william

Posted: 2010-07-22 08:15:39   Link

Good Morning Alan:

Mode put me in the mood and DOS full screen works for Win2kPro now.

Thank You Very Very Much. I suspect you are only down the road.

Good Morning Rafeal:

Thank for your tip. Cant find backslash, nor get ALT+ 92 to respond on

my Dell XP Laptop. But that situation wont last. I am that old, my age

can be written as a combination of the 1st and 4th primes !. Lucky you.

Good Morning Stephen:

These Exe's are still running live in Mills after 16+ years. They never

fail (Netware Server and dos6.22), but the Hardware is creaking. Set

Cyls to 2048 to get 100Gig 7200.10's to work with old BIOS, etc. Prg

Start Dates are 25/02/1992 and such, in Clipper & C. Being able to run

full screen gives me an option to use USB drivers to replace RS232. But

The Old Head benefits greatly from the joy of tinkering, so I am likely

to continue, unless called to a higher place.

Good Morning Malcolm:

Thank you. The plan is to run the VFP version under Wine or whatever

under Ubuntu. I did not know that DOS can be hosted as you suggest.

Thanks to you all

William

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 15:23 +0100, Alan Bourke wrote:

> I doubt that will go fullscreen in text mode.

>

> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:01 -0400, "Malcolm Greene" <profox@bdurham.com>

> wrote:

>

> I doubt that will go fullscreen in text mode.

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RE: [NF] OLD EXPERTISE REQUIRED !!

Author: Richard Kaye

Posted: 2010-07-22 08:21:56   Link

Try a zero at the beginning of your ALT key combo.

rk

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Good Morning Rafeal:

Thank for your tip. Cant find backslash, nor get ALT+ 92 to respond on

my Dell XP Laptop. But that situation wont last. I am that old, my age

can be written as a combination of the 1st and 4th primes !. Lucky you.

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