An old S-F novel (i don't remember nor the title neither the author) i read

in past 70's

introduced a vision of society based upon the total control of recycled

organs (to permit to save live and prolongate it).

Because of a lack of human organs donations (humanity becoming then very

numerous), society shifted to new goals

and politically decided to use new ways to obtain the raw.

A new vision about what's delictual and what's criminal appeared, and

gradually, insidiously,

everything became more and more prone to be subjected to the rigors of the

law (and of the needs).

Then, ... you crossed a road far from traffic lights ? Death penalty ! With

re-use of your organs, for state benefit ...

When i read that, i was schocked. ... but i was so young.

Is China able to do this now ? Will they do it ? I don't know.

But i think we need to make a quick return on ourselves and try to look the

truth in the face, on behalf of humanity.

Aren't us so far from that phenomenon, while actually anyone is willing to

kill (economically, politically, socially, militarly, physically) just to

maintain his lifestyle or just triumphantly justify its simple personal

opinions or system theories ??

Are we, somewhere, in the way of renewving the same model, like described

(in an another way) in the old movie "2025 : the survivors" ???

G

I too have noticed that a lot of our old science fiction stuff seems to

be coming true.

Don't know if you ever saw that movie demolition man, but we seem to be

breaking into the haves and the have nots similar to that movie.

and then the unit mentioned the other day where they could automatically

inject you for medical purposes.

imagine what damage that could do if it were injected in everybody at

birth, or only the ones who may have undesirable dna or some other

stupid stuff..

On 4/28/2010 8:55 AM, G

> Don't know if you ever saw that movie demolition man, but we seem to be

> breaking into the haves and the have nots similar to that movie.

> and then the unit mentioned the other day where they could automatically

> inject you for medical purposes.

No, i didn't see that movie (but i'll try to find it in free streaming :o) )

But there are a lot of projects acting in that a way AFAIK for the next

future and the future next,

American laboratories, French and European ones, Asians also, and others

too... are all involved in them.

And other projects you never could have had an idea.

I can't tell you more about that, because although i'm not directly

concerned, my knwoledge of the subject

makes me an indirect actor, and all of this kind of work is under high level

secrecy. You know what i mean.

Anyway, there is no stop put on me about asking underscored and hardest

questions (for the moment).

And so, i act to put my willing /ON, when i think of human superior

interest.

Will you do so ?

G

That's part of why I do my website as I too ha?e concerns about where we are headed

Sent from my BlackBerry

It seems that basic ethics and morals have not been taught for at least a generation, so anything can happen now.

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:

> From: Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com>

> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade in organs

> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>

> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:25 AM

> That's part of why I do my website as

> I too ha?e concerns about where we are headed

> Sent from my BlackBerry

I realized that yesterday watching goldman sachs on cnbc.

they have absolutely zero realization of what they are doing.

no remorse, nothing

for those of you not familiar with the stock market.

if you buy or sell a stock, you actually own something tangible

if you buy an option, somebody owning that stock has to agree to

transfer that stock to you if you exercise your option.

if you sell an option to somebody, you must own that stock and you agree

to transfer it to the buyer if they exercise their option.

now derivatives.

you own NOTHING

On 4/28/2010 1:00 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:

> It seems that basic ethics and morals have not been taught for at least a generation, so anything can happen now.

>

> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:

>

>

>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com>

>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade in organs

>> To: "ProFox Email List"<profox@leafe.com>

>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:25 AM

>> That's part of why I do my website as

>> I too ha?e concerns about where we are headed

>> Sent from my BlackBerry

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:

> I realized that yesterday watching goldman sachs on cnbc.

>

> they have absolutely zero realization of what they are doing.

> no remorse, nothing

-------------------------------

GS is smug because the pride of US business, and country will allow

them to play these stupid games and not be penalized to keep the world

banking on Wall St.

If removed from Wall St. it will leave the country.

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

CIMSgts

901.246-0159 cell

_______________________________________________

Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox

This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/s2mc4313dbe1004281147u26638da8j9e2352a0e7da6ded@mail.gmail.com

** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

Good riddance...

It is the Wall Street Vultures such as them that initiated all of the

hostile takeovers that got rid of management and sold off the pieces to

foreign investors.

Don't let the door hit them in the ass is what I say.

On 4/28/2010 1:47 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:

>

>> I realized that yesterday watching goldman sachs on cnbc.

>>

>> they have absolutely zero realization of what they are doing.

>> no remorse, nothing

>>

> -------------------------------

>

> GS is smug because the pride of US business, and country will allow

> them to play these stupid games and not be penalized to keep the world

> banking on Wall St.

>

> If removed from Wall St. it will leave the country.

>

>

>

>

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2840 - Release Date: 04/28/10 01:27:00

>

>

--

Virgil Bierschwale

Vets Finding Vets <http://www.VetsFindingVets.org>

Keep America At Work <http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com>

--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---

multipart/alternative

text/plain (text body -- kept)

text/html

---

_______________________________________________

Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox

This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4BD885FF.5080209@ktc.com

** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

They claim, however, that the Government isn't telling the truth.

What a disgusting show by the Democrats dropping the S bomb over and over again.

CBS was fined 250k for showing Janet Jackson's nipple, but nobody gets fined for saying "sh*t" over and over again in Congress?

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:

> From: Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com>

> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade in organs

> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>

> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 2:24 PM

> I realized that yesterday watching

> goldman sachs on cnbc.

>

> they have absolutely zero realization of what they are

> doing.

> no remorse, nothing

>

> for those of you not familiar with the stock market.

>

> if you buy or sell a stock, you actually own something

> tangible

> if you buy an option, somebody owning that stock has to

> agree to

> transfer that stock to you if you exercise your option.

> if you sell an option to somebody, you must own that stock

> and you agree

> to transfer it to the buyer if they exercise their option.

>

> now derivatives.

> you own NOTHING

>

> On 4/28/2010 1:00 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:

> > It seems that basic ethics and morals have not been

> taught for at least a generation, so anything can happen

> now.

> >

> > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com>

I've been studying the market since 96.

doesn't make me an expert, but I can guarantee you that warren buffet

back around that timeframe mentioned that derivatives were going to

destroy the market.

he's made money on them since I guess so you don't hear that no more,

but he was 100% right.

With a stock or an option you end up with a share of a company, even if

it is worthless.

Ask the people who say the government isn't telling the truth to show

you what you would end up with if the deal went bad on you.

On 4/28/2010 6:46 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:

> They claim, however, that the Government isn't telling the truth.

>

> What a disgusting show by the Democrats dropping the S bomb over and over again.

>

> CBS was fined 250k for showing Janet Jackson's nipple, but nobody gets fined for saying "sh*t" over and over again in Congress?

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:

>

>

>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com>

>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade in organs

>> To: "ProFox Email List"<profox@leafe.com>

>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 2:24 PM

>> I realized that yesterday watching

>> goldman sachs on cnbc.

>>

>> they have absolutely zero realization of what they are

>> doing.

>> no remorse, nothing

>>

>> for those of you not familiar with the stock market.

>>

>> if you buy or sell a stock, you actually own something

>> tangible

>> if you buy an option, somebody owning that stock has to

>> agree to

>> transfer that stock to you if you exercise your option.

>> if you sell an option to somebody, you must own that stock

>> and you agree

>> to transfer it to the buyer if they exercise their option.

>>

>> now derivatives.

>> you own NOTHING

>>

>> On 4/28/2010 1:00 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:

>>

>>> It seems that basic ethics and morals have not been

>>>

>> taught for at least a generation, so anything can happen

>> now.

>>

>>> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com>

>>>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<vbiersch@ktc.com>

>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of

>>>>

>> vast trade in organs

>>

>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<profox@leafe.com>

>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:25 AM

>>>> That's part of why I do my website as

>>>> I too ha?e concerns about where we are headed

>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry