Author: Nicholas Geti
Posted: 2010-04-16 09:52:58 Link
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/business/16pension.html?th&emc=th
The investment firm founded by Steven L. Rattner, the politically connected financier who went on to lead President Obama's auto task force, has agreed to pay $12 million to settle allegations that it paid kickbacks to win lucrative business from the New York State pension fund.
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Author: Virgil Bierschwale
Posted: 2010-04-16 10:07:59 Link
I know, the deeper I dig the worse it gets.
not only that, but most have worked for Goldman Sachs..
Follow the dollars and it gets worse and worse and these are the same
people that stated that america needed to become a service industry
because manufacturing was so old school and sold us off piece by piece..
we needed to become a service nation because the jobs pay less which
fattens their balance sheets is what I'm finding.
I always thought that michael moore fellow was a kook, but based on my
research, i'm not so sure anymore.
I've always considered myself a died in the wool capitalist and proud of
it, but I've come to realize that there is a big difference between my
capitalism where you make 30 to 50 percent on your product so that you
can stay in business versus these guys ideas of capitalism where I get
mine and to hell with everybody else.
On 4/16/2010 8:52 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2010-04-16 13:53:36 Link
These guys never go to jail.
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:
> From: Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com>
> Subject: Re: [OT] This is the calibre of people hired by Obama
> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:07 AM
> I know, the deeper I dig the worse it
> gets.
>
> not only that, but most have worked for Goldman Sachs..
> Follow the dollars and it gets worse and worse and these
> are the same
> people that stated that america needed to become a service
> industry
> because manufacturing was so old school and sold us off
> piece by piece..
>
> we needed to become a service nation because the jobs pay
> less which
> fattens their balance sheets is what I'm finding.
>
> I always thought that michael moore fellow was a kook, but
> based on my
> research, i'm not so sure anymore.
> I've always considered myself a died in the wool capitalist
> and proud of
> it, but I've come to realize that there is a big difference
> between my
> capitalism where you make 30 to 50 percent on your product
> so that you
> can stay in business versus these guys ideas of capitalism
> where I get
> mine and to hell with everybody else.
>
>
> On 4/16/2010 8:52 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/business/16pension.html?th&emc=th
> >
> > The investment firm founded by Steven L. Rattner, the
> politically connected financier who went on to lead
> President Obama's auto task force, has agreed to pay $12
> million to settle allegations that it paid kickbacks to win
> lucrative business from the New York State pension fund.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Author: Virgil Bierschwale
Posted: 2010-04-16 13:59:28 Link
Usually not
But if goldman falls
Maybe
Sent from my BlackBerry
Author: Nicholas Geti
Posted: 2010-04-16 14:12:12 Link
Paulson and Co. was the firm that worked out a deal with Goldman that bet
against the mortgage program sold by Goldman. Paulson so far is accused of
any crimes. What a shame. I would call we he did is a fraud.
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Usually not
But if goldman falls
Maybe
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Author: Virgil Bierschwale
Posted: 2010-04-16 14:41:36 Link
paulson, geithner, bernake.
all ex goldman people.
sumners also is I believe.
My theory is this will go all the way to the whitehouse if they're found
guilty .
By whitehouse, I don't mean Obama..
I mean a lot of his staff.
This stuff goes all the way back to that first trader that went to jail
for selling american firms off way back when I was a young pup..
forget his name.
On 4/16/2010 1:12 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
> Paulson and Co. was the firm that worked out a deal with Goldman that bet
> against the mortgage program sold by Goldman. Paulson so far is accused of
> any crimes. What a shame. I would call we he did is a fraud.
>
>
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> Usually not
> But if goldman falls
> Maybe
> Sent from my BlackBerry
Author: Nicholas Geti
Posted: 2010-04-16 14:54:23 Link
Major typo: I meant he has not been accused of any crimes.
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Paulson and Co. was the firm that worked out a deal with Goldman that bet
against the mortgage program sold by Goldman. Paulson so far is accused of
any crimes. What a shame. I would call we he did is a fraud.
----- Original Message -----
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To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
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Usually not
But if goldman falls
Maybe
Sent from my BlackBerry
Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2010-04-16 14:56:23 Link
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> My theory is this will go all the way to the whitehouse if they're found
> guilty .
>
> By whitehouse, I don't mean Obama..
> I mean a lot of his staff.
Hi Virgil,
Right, Obama wants to distribute the wealth, not concentrate it.
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Author: Virgil Bierschwale
Posted: 2010-04-16 15:01:36 Link
more involved then that...
Sometime when you have the time, start researching the leaders of the
fed, people like pauson, bernake, geithner, maybe sumners, etc...
see how many of them have ties back to Goldman
On 4/16/2010 1:56 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:
> Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
>
>
>> My theory is this will go all the way to the whitehouse if they're found
>> guilty .
>>
>> By whitehouse, I don't mean Obama..
>> I mean a lot of his staff.
>>
> Hi Virgil,
>
> Right, Obama wants to distribute the wealth, not concentrate it.
>
>
>
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Author: Publius Maximus
Posted: 2010-04-16 17:46:02 Link
Half of Obama's administration is made up of lunatic radicals, the
other half are Goldman Sachs appointees.
I wonder if this isn't Obama starting to bite the hand that feeds him?
At least, that part of it that is politically palatable.
Interesting development.
For the record, TARP was the biggest act of generational theft in the
history of human civilization, and the government is just as complicit
in the scam as Goldman Sachs.
- Publius
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Nicholas Geti <ngeti@optonline.net> wrote:
> Paulson and Co. was the firm that worked out a deal with Goldman that bet
> against the mortgage program sold by Goldman. Paulson so far is accused of
> any crimes. What a shame. I would call we he did is a fraud.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] This is the calibre of people hired by Obama
>
>
> Usually not
> But if goldman falls
> Maybe
> Sent from my BlackBerry