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2010-04-05 14:00John Weller : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-05 14:08Jarvis, Matthew : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-05 14:50James E Harvey : [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 03:02Dave Crozier : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 04:05Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 07:24Richard Kaye : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 10:43Alan Bourke : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 11:38Jarvis, Matthew : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 12:04Stan Gilbertson : RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
2010-04-06 12:04Ted Roche : Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: John Weller

Posted: 2010-04-05 14:00:01   Link

I've not seen any recommended list but if the website doesn't support Safari

it won't be available to Mac or iPhone users.

John Weller

01380 723235

07976 393631

>

> Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how

> far

> back a web site should allow for?

>

> Is something like this normal?

>

> IE 8

> IE 7 (?)

> IE 6 (?)

>

> FireFox

>

> Chrome

>

> Safari

>

> Opera

>

> Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't support

> Safari or Opera?

>

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Jarvis, Matthew

Posted: 2010-04-05 14:08:48   Link

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

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> On Behalf Of James E Harvey

> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:51 AM

> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> Subject: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

>

> Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how

far

> back a web site should allow for?

>

> Is something like this normal?

>

> IE 8

> IE 7 (?)

> IE 6 (?)

>

> FireFox

>

> Chrome

>

> Safari

>

> Opera

>

> Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't

support

> Safari or Opera?

Does this site help you?

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

No matter how many versions of browsers you try and account for, there's

*some* bozo out there still running Netscape 1.1 or something...

Thanks,

Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst

IT Department

McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center

1460 G Street, Springfield, OR 97477 || Ph: 541-744-6092 || Fax:

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[NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: James E Harvey

Posted: 2010-04-05 14:50:41   Link

Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how far

back a web site should allow for?

Is something like this normal?

IE 8

IE 7 (?)

IE 6 (?)

FireFox

Chrome

Safari

Opera

Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't support

Safari or Opera?

James E Harvey

Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.

M.I.S./Corresponding Officer

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fax: 717-637-6766

email: jharvey@hanoverpa.com

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Dave Crozier

Posted: 2010-04-06 03:02:13   Link

On the basis the M$ have just dropped support for IE 6 I'd drop that from

the list and also anything early on Firefox wise, say less than V3.2.

Dave C

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Subject: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how far

back a web site should allow for?

Is something like this normal?

IE 8

IE 7 (?)

IE 6 (?)

FireFox

Chrome

Safari

Opera

Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't support

Safari or Opera?

James E Harvey

Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.

M.I.S./Corresponding Officer

Off: 717-637-8931

fax: 717-637-6766

email: jharvey@hanoverpa.com

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2010-04-06 04:05:52   Link

I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,

unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT

department, or a load of applications that require it.

--

Alan Bourke

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Richard Kaye

Posted: 2010-04-06 07:24:00   Link

IE6 still has ~15% of the browser market believe it or not.

http://tinyurl.com/yaxfm25

Having said that, a lot of relatively large sites have said they no longer support it.

rk

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I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,

unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT

department, or a load of applications that require it.

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Alan Bourke

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2010-04-06 10:43:50   Link

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:08 -0500, "Jarvis, Matthew" <MatJar@mckweb.com>

wrote:

> No matter how many versions of browsers you try and account for, there's

> *some* bozo out there still running Netscape 1.1 or something...

Yep - and I say screw them, you have to draw the line somewhere and for

me it would now be IE7 (in the IE world)

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Jarvis, Matthew

Posted: 2010-04-06 11:38:47   Link

> -----Original Message-----

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> I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,

> unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT

> department, or a load of applications that require it.

> --

Um... I checked and yes, our default browser is IE6....

I'm a bit surprised our corp overseers haven't noticed me using Firefox

all the time... plus they'd prolly freak if they knew how many times

I've been to DistroWatch.... <g>

Thanks,

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Stan Gilbertson

Posted: 2010-04-06 12:04:05   Link

IE6 is the latest you can go on win2k. Many desk system still win2k works fine,

upgrade when hardware not reparable.

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IE6 still has ~15% of the browser market believe it or not.

http://tinyurl.com/yaxfm25

Having said that, a lot of relatively large sites have said they no longer

support it.

rk

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I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,

unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT

department, or a load of applications that require it.

--

Alan Bourke

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2010-04-06 12:04:11   Link

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM, James E Harvey <jharvey@hanoverpa.com> wrote:

> Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how far

> back a web site should allow for?

Sure!

"Support the browsers that your customers (and potential customers) are using."

---

If you are offering a customizable, AJAX-driven, Twitter-entwined,

geolocated, cool app for customers to use on their iPhone, you can

probably drop IE4/5/6 and Netscape 4.7 support.

If you're trying to sell salvaged house hardware, you should probably

be supporting WebTV, dial-up (speed way more important that browser!),

HTML 4.01 and AOL., if that's what you find your customers are using.

If you are offering Windows-only software, perhaps you don't need to

target Safari and iPhones or Konqueror.

I build web apps for many customers, and I prefer (and primarily

target) the current and previous versions of the most popular

browsers, in order: FireFox, Internet Explorer, Safari. Acceptance

criteria varies for each of my customers: European companies might

want Opera testing, Far East firms want UTF-8 l18n, cutting edge firms

want XHTML 1.1 and CSS 2.1 or 3. That said, I target making 100% valid

code, then back off as needed for functionality. That makes the pages

viewable in the maximum variety of browser, imo.

That might take a bit of effort:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.hanoverpa.com&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

And I hate to mention it last, but accessibility, testable and

verifiable, needs to be a priority for us as well.

--

Ted Roche

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