If you are 100% responsible for your code base this doesn't apply to
you. If you have to work with others this might.
The Q I have is do you separate between workspaces code that is
running and code your are developing? That may be a different server,
or a different folder on your worksation. Either way there are TWO
versions.
I wish someone would tell my java WS developer why? She fails to
listen to any argument I have.
Oh she just put the service back up.
TTFN.
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On 2/22/10 8:26 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> If you are 100% responsible for your code base this doesn't apply to
> you. If you have to work with others this might.
>
> The Q I have is do you separate between workspaces code that is
> running and code your are developing? That may be a different server,
> or a different folder on your worksation. Either way there are TWO
> versions.
>
> I wish someone would tell my java WS developer why? She fails to
> listen to any argument I have.
She tests on the production server? Get her fired!!!
Paul
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Author: Virgil Bierschwale
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:27:06 Link
Lessons I learned the hard way over 20 years.
Development
Test
Production
All 3 environments have the same exact patches/version numbers otherwise you
waste tons of time trying to figure out why it works in one environment and
doesn't in the other, and especially if you're running sql server
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If you are 100% responsible for your code base this doesn't apply to you.
If you have to work with others this might.
The Q I have is do you separate between workspaces code that is running and
code your are developing? That may be a different server, or a different
folder on your worksation. Either way there are TWO versions.
I wish someone would tell my java WS developer why? She fails to listen to
any argument I have.
Oh she just put the service back up.
TTFN.
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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
CIMSgts
901.246-0159 cell
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Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:33:23 Link
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Paul McNett <p@ulmcnett.com> wrote:
> On 2/22/10 8:26 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>> If you are 100% responsible for your code base this doesn't apply to
>> you.
Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:36:46 Link
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:
> Lessons I learned the hard way over 20 years.
>
> Development
> Test
> Production
>
> All 3 environments have the same exact patches/version numbers otherwise you
> waste tons of time trying to figure out why it works in one environment and
> doesn't in the other, and especially if you're running sql server
--------------------------
I wish!
This is a COBALT system with data on a or in a HP Tandum Non Stop
database. All code is running against Test right now and she will cut
it over to prod when everyone agrees.
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On 2/22/10 1:33 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Paul McNett<p@ulmcnett.com> wrote:
>> On 2/22/10 8:26 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>> If you are 100% responsible for your code base this doesn't apply to
>>> you. If you have to work with others this might.
>>>
>>> The Q I have is do you separate between workspaces code that is
>>> running and code your are developing? That may be a different server,
>>> or a different folder on your worksation. Either way there are TWO
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> I wish someone would tell my java WS developer why? She fails to
>>> listen to any argument I have.
>>
>> She tests on the production server? Get her fired!!!
> --------------------
>
> She is writing java web services for others to consume. She is
> responsible for the Data Portal. So 4 months into a project she still
> hosts all traffic through her dev box because nobody has gotten
> through enough testing to qualify getting at production.
>
> She had a fit this am as I was writing. Called me up and was nasty.
> ;-> All because I said that I wouldn't be in a bind if she had her
> test server running.
You depend on the test or development server for PRODUCTION use? Something ain't
right with this picture.
Paul
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Author: MB Software Solutions General Account
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:41:39 Link
On Mon, February 22, 2010 11:26 am, Stephen Russell wrote:
> I wish someone would tell my java WS developer why? She fails to
> listen to any argument I have.
That's because you've no doubt thrown in DotNet propaganda and she's
stopped listening to you. <gd&r>
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Author: Virgil Bierschwale
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:43:29 Link
Yeah, and something will be forgotten, or some little problem will creep in
and you'll spend more time trying to figure it out then it would have taken
to set up a proper versioning system.
You don't have to have separate servers, at least in the foxpro world.
Just create 3 separate folders and 3 separate groups within the operating
system, that way each group won't have access to the stuff they don't need,
or shouldn't touch.
Yeah I know, it probably won't happen because I too have been in your shoes
<grin>
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com>
wrote:
> Lessons I learned the hard way over 20 years.
>
> Development
> Test
> Production
>
> All 3 environments have the same exact patches/version numbers
> otherwise you waste tons of time trying to figure out why it works in
> one environment and doesn't in the other, and especially if you're
> running sql server
--------------------------
I wish!
This is a COBALT system with data on a or in a HP Tandum Non Stop database.
All code is running against Test right now and she will cut it over to prod
when everyone agrees.
--
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
CIMSgts
901.246-0159 cell
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Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:54:47 Link
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:
> Yeah, and something will be forgotten, or some little problem will creep in
> and you'll spend more time trying to figure it out then it would have taken
> to set up a proper versioning system.
>
> You don't have to have separate servers, at least in the foxpro world.
>
> Just create 3 separate folders and 3 separate groups within the operating
> system, that way each group won't have access to the stuff they don't need,
> or shouldn't touch.
----------------------------------
That is why you have a test harness that you can point to ANY service
you want. Run that series of tests and say it works here and there
but not AAAA.
This isn't rocket science.
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Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2010-02-22 16:58:18 Link
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:41 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account
<mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> On Mon, February 22, 2010 11:26 am, Stephen Russell wrote:
>> I wish someone would tell my java WS developer why?