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2009-03-08 20:00David Boatright : Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-08 20:10Ken Kixmoeller/fh : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-08 20:12Sytze de Boer : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-08 20:14Michael Madigan : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-08 21:05MB Software Solutions General Account : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-08 22:01Ricardo Aráoz : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-09 11:25Jeff Johnson : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-09 21:29Michael Madigan : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-10 15:36KAM.covad : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
2009-03-10 15:48Sytze de Boer : Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
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Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: David Boatright

Posted: 2009-03-08 20:00:53   Link

> And your contribution has been... ?

To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike you. You seem to

maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

just to promote your new toy.

©2009 David Boatright
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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Ken Kixmoeller/fh

Posted: 2009-03-08 20:10:23   Link

On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, David Boatright wrote:

> You seem to

> maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

> just to promote your new toy.

"No good deed goes unpunished."

©2009 Ken Kixmoeller/fh
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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Sytze de Boer

Posted: 2009-03-08 20:12:34   Link

Mr Boatright

Yes, the MS bashing has annoyed me at times

Yes, there's been the odd, tongue in cheek Dabo reference.

If these people are guilty, they have just been completely exonerated

by your comment.

When you pronounce people guilty, be very careful you don't committ a

greater sin !!

Sytze

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:00 PM, David Boatright <dcboatright@gmail.com> wro=

te:

>> =A0 =A0 =A0And your contribution has been... ?

>

> To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike you. =A0You seem to

> maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

> just to promote your new toy.

>

>

>

>

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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2009-03-08 20:14:30   Link

Claire Booth Luce said it and she was right.

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Ken Kixmoeller/fh <foxhelp@information-architecture.com> wrote:

From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh <foxhelp@information-architecture.com>

Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>

Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:10 PM

On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, David Boatright wrote:

> You seem to

> maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

> just to promote your new toy.

"No good deed goes unpunished."

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©2009 Michael Madigan
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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: MB Software Solutions General Account

Posted: 2009-03-08 21:05:34   Link

David Boatright wrote:

>> And your contribution has been... ?

>

> To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike you. You seem to

> maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

> just to promote your new toy.

-1

I absolutely disagree. While he might promote Dabo, I certainly don't

think Ed shits on VFP. Nor did Ted (who doesn't use Fox anymore).

These guys have moved onto more modern softwares and are embracing

change. I absolutely love VFP, but I prefer MySQL for the backend...but

that doesn't mean I speak disparagingly about the Fox. My apps have

never (afaik) had corruption because I think I've coded them quite well;

however, the daytime app I work on (not mine, but a legacy app from LONG

ago that uses direct table edits via table buffering and NO views),

suffers from lots of memo file corruption. Why? I think the way Fox

accesses data across the LAN (needing a constant connection) and the

ways people did things way back when seem to cause some issues today.

Hence, that kind of legacy stuff gives the Fox a bad rap, which may be

construed as "shitting all over Foxpro" but I think it's just one of

those solutions that didn't account for the ways things change in

design, and hence, it's just not as good a "mousetrap" as today's

database backends can be. That's not a slam....it's just a (disputable)

fact, imo.

©2009 MB Software Solutions General Account
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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Ricardo Aráoz

Posted: 2009-03-08 22:01:59   Link

> David Boatright wrote:

>

>>> And your contribution has been... ?

>>>

>> To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike you. You seem to

>> maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

>> just to promote your new toy.

>>

I completely agree with you. Would you please give us a list of

permitted threads? Please! I reeeeaaally need your guidance on my topics

of conversation with others. I'd really appreciate that whenever you

think I'm saying something that in your opinion shouldn't be said here

you tell me and forbid the topic, then we can ask Ed to erase any

reference to it. Just so you are happy and can sleep with a smile on

your lips.

Yours..... (in body and soul)

Ricardo

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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Jeff Johnson

Posted: 2009-03-09 11:25:22   Link

David Boatright wrote:

>> And your contribution has been... ?

>

> To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike you. You seem to

> maintain this list just so you can shit all over Foxpro and Microsoft

> just to promote your new toy.

Wow! Unbelievable! I owe a lot of my success to Ed Leafe and ProFox.

I can't tell you how many times I had a sticky problem with Terminal

Services or FTP or something that you need to support a VFP application;

or wanted opinions from people that have a lot of experience.

What about all of the "I'm at a customer site and need some help fast..."

And what's wrong with mentioning Dabo? It's all of the talk about Linux

and Dabo and Python and PostGreSQL that has me moving in that direction

- while still maintaining VFP applications - and I appreciate all of the

help. It is some of the best you can find - and in one place.

And finally, I am self-employed and sit in an office by myself. The

people of ProFox are my co-workers and I learn an awful lot about

everything from them.

Thank you again, Ed!

Jeff

Jeff Johnson

jeff@san-dc.com

SanDC, Inc.

623-582-0323

Fax 623-869-0675

©2009 Jeff Johnson
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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2009-03-09 21:29:39   Link

It's always the lurkers that complain the most. If they don't like the content, then contribute, otherwise keep lurking.

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com> wrote:

> From: Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com>

> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:25 AM

> David Boatright wrote:

> >> And your contribution has been... ?

> >

> > To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike

> you. You seem to

> > maintain this list just so you can shit all over

> Foxpro and Microsoft

> > just to promote your new toy.

>

>

> Wow! Unbelievable! I owe a lot of my success to Ed Leafe

> and ProFox.

> I can't tell you how many times I had a sticky problem

> with Terminal

> Services or FTP or something that you need to support a VFP

> application;

> or wanted opinions from people that have a lot of

> experience.

>

> What about all of the "I'm at a customer site and

> need some help fast..."

>

> And what's wrong with mentioning Dabo? It's all of

> the talk about Linux

> and Dabo and Python and PostGreSQL that has me moving in

> that direction

> - while still maintaining VFP applications - and I

> appreciate all of the

> help. It is some of the best you can find - and in one

> place.

>

> And finally, I am self-employed and sit in an office by

> myself. The

> people of ProFox are my co-workers and I learn an awful lot

> about

> everything from them.

>

> Thank you again, Ed!

>

> Jeff

>

> Jeff Johnson

> jeff@san-dc.com

> SanDC, Inc.

> 623-582-0323

> Fax 623-869-0675

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

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> medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for

> those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: KAM.covad

Posted: 2009-03-10 15:36:30   Link

I agree with this. I am definitely moving toward Python and PostgreSQL. =

I went to the Baypiggies meeting last month (local python user meeting) =

I know that M$ will eventually screw all of us in order to force us to =

use .Net or whatever garbage they dream up next and I need to find a way =

out of this monopoly proprietary box.

----- Original Message -----=20

From: Michael Madigan=20

To: ProFox Email List=20

Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:29 PM

Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

It's always the lurkers that complain the most. If they don't like the =

content, then contribute, otherwise keep lurking.

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com> wrote:

> From: Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com>

> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:25 AM

> David Boatright wrote:

> >> And your contribution has been... ?

> >

> > To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike

> you. You seem to

> > maintain this list just so you can shit all over

> Foxpro and Microsoft

> > just to promote your new toy.

>=20

>=20

> Wow! Unbelievable! I owe a lot of my success to Ed Leafe

> and ProFox.=20

> I can't tell you how many times I had a sticky problem

> with Terminal=20

> Services or FTP or something that you need to support a VFP

> application;=20

> or wanted opinions from people that have a lot of

> experience.

>=20

> What about all of the "I'm at a customer site and

> need some help fast..."

>=20

> And what's wrong with mentioning Dabo? It's all of

> the talk about Linux=20

> and Dabo and Python and PostGreSQL that has me moving in

> that direction=20

> - while still maintaining VFP applications - and I

> appreciate all of the=20

> help. It is some of the best you can find - and in one

> place.

>=20

> And finally, I am self-employed and sit in an office by

> myself. The=20

> people of ProFox are my co-workers and I learn an awful lot

> about=20

> everything from them.

>=20

> Thank you again, Ed!

>=20

> Jeff

>=20

> Jeff Johnson

> jeff@san-dc.com

> SanDC, Inc.

> 623-582-0323

> Fax 623-869-0675

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

>=20

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> http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49B534E2.2010109@san-dc.com

> ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are

> the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or

> medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for

> those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

Author: Sytze de Boer

Posted: 2009-03-10 15:48:48   Link

This is the kind of nonsense that people are fed up with, and

destroying this wonderful tool (Profox)

Your statement has just placed all .Net developers in the garbage category.

For as long as you make this kind of arrogant contribution, I hope you

move to Python as soon as possible and get off this list.

Sytze

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, KAM.covad

<a_gmail_noSpam@kenmcginnis.com> wrote:

> I agree with this. I am definitely moving toward Python and PostgreSQL. I=

went to the Baypiggies meeting last month (local python user meeting) I kn=

ow that M$ will eventually screw all of us in order to force us to use .Net=

or whatever garbage they dream up next and I need to find a way out of thi=

s monopoly proprietary box.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Michael Madigan

> To: ProFox Email List

> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:29 PM

> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

>

>

>

> It's always the lurkers that complain the most. =A0If they don't like the=

content, then contribute, otherwise keep lurking.

>

> --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com> wrote:

>

>> From: Jeff Johnson <jeff@san-dc.com>

>> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

>> To: profox@leafe.com

>> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:25 AM

>> David Boatright wrote:

>> =A0>> =A0 =A0 =A0And your contribution has been... ?

>> =A0>

>> =A0> To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike

>> you. =A0You seem to

>> =A0> maintain this list just so you can shit all over

>> Foxpro and Microsoft

>> =A0> just to promote your new toy.

>>

>>

>> Wow! =A0Unbelievable! =A0I owe a lot of my success to Ed Leafe

>> and ProFox.

>> I can't tell you how many times I had a sticky problem

>> with Terminal

>> Services or FTP or something that you need to support a VFP

>> application;

>> or wanted opinions from people that have a lot of

>> experience.

>>

>> What about all of the "I'm at a customer site and

>> need some help fast..."

>>

>> And what's wrong with mentioning Dabo? =A0It's all of

>> the talk about Linux

>> and Dabo and Python and PostGreSQL that has me moving in

>> that direction

>> - while still maintaining VFP applications - and I

>> appreciate all of the

>> help. =A0It is some of the best you can find - and in one

>> place.

>>

>> And finally, I am self-employed and sit in an office by

>> myself. =A0The

>> people of ProFox are my co-workers and I learn an awful lot

>> about

>> everything from them.

>>

>> Thank you again, Ed!

>>

>> Jeff

>>

>> Jeff Johnson

>> jeff@san-dc.com

>> SanDC, Inc.

>> 623-582-0323

>> Fax 623-869-0675

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> _______________________________________________

>> Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

>> Subscription Maintenance:

>> http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

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>> http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

>> Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox

>> This message:

>> http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/49B534E2.2010109@san-dc.com

>> ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are

>> the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or

>> medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for

>> those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

>

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©2009 Sytze de Boer