MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on
> 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively.
I assume that would be more of a Python issue than a Dabo issue. Python
does work on 64-bit sytems.
Author: MB Software Solutions General Account
Posted: 2009-03-06 11:27:09 Link
On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:50 am, Dave Crozier wrote:
<snipped>
> For your information Clipper xbase language was made open source and is
> still in development in the Harbour project.
>
>
> http://www.harbour-project.org/
Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on
64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively.
Author: MB Software Solutions General Account
Posted: 2009-03-06 11:35:02 Link
On Fri, March 6, 2009 11:25 am, Casey McGuire wrote:
> MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
>
>> Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work
>> on 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively.
>>
>
> I assume that would be more of a Python issue than a Dabo issue. Python
> does work on 64-bit sytems.
You're right---it's all what Python can do...and since you confirmed
Python can work on 64-bit, then I'm virtually certain that Ed/Paul
wouldn't change that!
Thanks, Casey!
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Ed -- the harbour project boasts of 64-bit capability. Does Dabo work on
> 64-bit systems too? We've heard that VFP won't natively.
Dabo works fine on 64-bit systems, as confirmed by my 2 64-bit operating platforms
(Mac OS X Leopard on Intel Core2 Duo and Ubuntu 7.10/64bit running in a virtual
machine with 64-bit virtual cpu on top of that mac platform).
If someone wants to donate a 64bit Windows for me to install and test with, I'd be
willing to do that.
Paul
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> You're right---it's all what Python can do...and since you confirmed
> Python can work on 64-bit, then I'm virtually certain that Ed/Paul
> wouldn't change that!
Maybe some company in the Pacific Northwest would get the idea to artificially limit
the software to only work on 32-bit systems, so they could charge extra for the
64-bit version, but things like that would make me feel slimy I think.
There really would be no reason for us to limit Dabo in such a fashion, and every
reason not to. We *want* more users.
Paul
Author: MB Software Solutions General Account
Posted: 2009-03-06 12:22:34 Link
On Fri, March 6, 2009 11:54 am, Paul McNett wrote:
> MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
>
>> You're right---it's all what Python can do...and since you confirmed
>> Python can work on 64-bit, then I'm virtually certain that Ed/Paul
>> wouldn't change that!
>
> Maybe some company in the Pacific Northwest would get the idea to
> artificially limit the software to only work on 32-bit systems, so they
> could charge extra for the 64-bit version, but things like that would make
> me feel slimy I think.
>
> There really would be no reason for us to limit Dabo in such a fashion,
> and every reason not to. We *want* more users.
LOL! You'd never make it at M$ with that anti-capitalistic position,
Paul! "You gotta FORCE 'em to use your stuff and pay your dues,
man...it's the M$ way!" <bg>
On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said "Paul,
you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he
wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales
strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our
money?"
On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
wrote:
> On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said
> "Paul,
> you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he
> wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales
> strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our
> money?"
Provide true value to customers, where people *want* to buy your
products. The reason Word and Excel became such important products is
that they made life easier for their users, and that was worth paying
money for.
How does Vista or XP or Win7 make your life easier than the previous
version? How about the latest Office versus the previous Office? Is it
worth the cost? Or do you feel compelled to pay for the upgrade
because the old version will be rendered incompatible or insecure?
-- Ed Leafe
At 12:22 PM 3/6/2009 -0500, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
...
>On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said "Paul,
>you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he
>wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales
>strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our
>money?"
How about....
"Steve, you @!#@! idiot dip-#@$* !$$-hole. I don't give a flying #@$! if
you make any money at all (well maybe I wouldn't use those terms). Hell,
just split your banked 50 Billion amongst your employees and close up your
house. The rest of the world will be a lot better off for it in the long
run. But if you really want to keep going, you're going to have to change
your business model completely. Fire 95% of your lawyers, make all your
software free, and switch to a services, vice product, company. Who knows,
if you did all that you may actually build a user-base instead of the
current slave-base."
:-)
-Charlie
They do NOT make your life easier/better. On the contrary, they make =
your life worse.=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ed Leafe=20
To: ProFox Email List=20
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)
On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account =20
wrote:
> On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said =20
> "Paul,
> you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he
> wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales
> strategies? Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our
> money?"
Provide true value to customers, where people *want* to buy your =20
products. The reason Word and Excel became such important products is =20
that they made life easier for their users, and that was worth paying =20
money for.
How does Vista or XP or Win7 make your life easier than the previous =20
version? How about the latest Office versus the previous Office? Is it =20
worth the cost? Or do you feel compelled to pay for the upgrade =20
because the old version will be rendered incompatible or insecure?
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2009-03-06 14:42:46 Link
Cashing a check?
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--- On Fri, 3/6/09, MB Software Solutions General Account <mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> From: MB Software Solutions General Account <mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>
> Subject: [OT] Legal bill includes postage (was Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET))
> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 2:47 PM
> On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:04 pm, Charlie Coleman wrote:
> > How about....
> >
> >
> > "Steve, you @!#@! idiot dip-#@$* !$$-hole. I
> don't give a flying #@$! if
> > you make any money at all (well maybe I wouldn't
> use those terms). Hell,
> > just split your banked 50 Billion amongst your
> employees and close up
> > your house. The rest of the world will be a lot better
> off for it in the
> > long run. But if you really want to keep going,
> you're going to have to
> > change your business model completely. Fire 95% of
> your lawyers, make all
> > your software free, and switch to a services, vice
> product, company. Who
> > knows, if you did all that you may actually build a
> user-base instead of
> > the current slave-base."
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > -Charlie
>
>
> Reminds me of my recent angst with my lawyer's bill.
> The guy charges me
> 0.6hrs at $195/hr to go to the bank and cash an escrow
> account for credit
> towards my $12k legal bill. Ok, I'm not objecting to
> that. But when he
> charged me $0.56 (yes, 56 cents) for postage costs...well,
> that was like
> salt in the wound. The guy is good, but at that rate,
> don't you think
> they could not charge the postage? Ugh.
>
>
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