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2008-12-17 19:41Michael Madigan : [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
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2008-12-17 19:50Michael Madigan : Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-17 19:57Kevin Cully : Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-17 20:34Gil Hale : RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-17 20:38Kristyne McDaniel : RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-17 22:33Michael Madigan : RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-17 23:15Pete Theisen : Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-18 07:51Kevin Cully : Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
2008-12-18 08:41Gil Hale : RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
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[NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-12-17 19:41:50   Link

I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't recognized by the network anymore. I could ping it, but I couldn't see the shares and I couldn't get into the web admin.

In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the flash memory got trashed. By just running a firmware update downloaded from Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

Keep that in your memory banks.

©2008 Michael Madigan
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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Kevin Cully

Posted: 2008-12-17 19:46:43   Link

Thanks Michael. I've got a Buffalo LS (250G) that's been running

reliably for about 5 years now. I'd hate to lose her.

-Kevin

CULLY Technologies, LLC

Michael Madigan wrote:

> I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't recognized by the network anymore. I could ping it, but I couldn't see the shares and I couldn't get into the web admin.

>

> In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the flash memory got trashed. By just running a firmware update downloaded from Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

>

> Keep that in your memory banks.

>

>

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2008 Kevin Cully
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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-12-17 19:50:41   Link

I bought mine because I think you recommended it (or someone on here did).

I have the 500 now. It's been very reliable up to today. I wonder what happened to it?

--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com> wrote:

> From: Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>

> Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 7:46 PM

> Thanks Michael. I've got a Buffalo LS (250G) that's

> been running

> reliably for about 5 years now. I'd hate to lose her.

>

> -Kevin

> CULLY Technologies, LLC

>

>

> Michael Madigan wrote:

> > I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't

> recognized by the network anymore. I could ping it, but I

> couldn't see the shares and I couldn't get into the

> web admin.

> >

> > In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the flash

> memory got trashed. By just running a firmware update

> downloaded from Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

> >

> > Keep that in your memory banks.

> >

> >

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2008 Michael Madigan
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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Kevin Cully

Posted: 2008-12-17 19:57:39   Link

It's winter. Perhaps static electricity?

I pummel mine all day long, mostly playing music from it.

-Kevin

CULLY Technologies, LLC

Michael Madigan wrote:

> I bought mine because I think you recommended it (or someone on here did).

>

> I have the 500 now. It's been very reliable up to today. I wonder what happened to it?

©2008 Kevin Cully
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RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Gil Hale

Posted: 2008-12-17 20:34:42   Link

I have a blend of brands for my external HDD units that I use for disk image

and file backup purposes. But not being the trusting type I also back up

the backup HDD units to a 2nd set of external HDD units, connected to a Dell

840 Server via eSATA. Since having gone to a 2nd layer of HDD protection

(which is backed up weekly to an LTO3 tape drive unit, on any one of 3 sets

of tape media) I have only lost one primary backup HDD. I bet if I did not

have the backup HDD units backed up at a 2nd level, much less via LTO3 tape,

I would have lost a lot more <g>...

That said, a friend of mine in SoCal had a Lacie 500Gb RAID external USB2

unit. He told me last year that he could never lose data on that unit

because of its RAID configuration. "Wanna bet?", asked I. Sure enough, the

other month he lost the Lacie unit. He could not find anyone who was

willing to touch it for less than $1,000 to try to recover data. And I was

not out there to try to help him out. Luckily he moved it from being used

as a primary storage device to file backup only, otherwise he would have

lost a lot of client video he was storing.

He has now gone to the primary/secondary external HDD backup strategy. Once

he has the bux to do so he is going to get an LTO4 Tape Drive and start to

behave in a responsible manner. Some of the video he shoots is for the

medical community for training. Once in a while they ask him to splice in

or out changes, then recompile the output file. So if he ever lost the

source files used for his compilation he would be "almost" screwed. He

tells me he has the original tapes, and can rebuild the projects if he has

to. I advised that I would not put that much faith into tape, and pointed

out the hours of tape restoring and recompilation he could save by not

taking chances.

I have been using the Seagate FreeAgent External HDD units for the past year

(5 year warranty) with good results. If you want to use these with anything

other than XP or Vista you will need to connect the HDD via US2 to an

XP/Vista machine, then run the Seagate software to turn off the sleep mode

(default = 15 minutes, I set it to never sleep, gets saved in the HDD

firmware). That way on a Linux/Mac/Windows Server 2003 machine the HDDs

never "disappear" when they go to sleep. It is the only flaw I have

experienced thus far with that model. BTW, I found their utility software

works fine with USB2, maybe with Firewire, but certainly not with an eSATA

connection.

Gil

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

> [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Cully

> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:47 PM

> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

>

>

> Thanks Michael. I've got a Buffalo LS (250G) that's been running

> reliably for about 5 years now. I'd hate to lose her.

>

> -Kevin

> CULLY Technologies, LLC

>

>

> Michael Madigan wrote:

> > I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't recognized by the

> network anymore. I could ping it, but I couldn't see the shares

> and I couldn't get into the web admin.

> >

> > In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the flash memory got

> trashed. By just running a firmware update downloaded from

> Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

> >

> > Keep that in your memory banks.

> >

> >

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2008 Gil Hale
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RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Kristyne McDaniel

Posted: 2008-12-17 20:38:28   Link

Madigan,

> I have the 500 now. It's been very reliable up to today. I

> wonder what happened to it?

Maybe it noticed you aren't the Michael Madigan in Illinois.

Kristyne McDaniel

http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog

http://www.emryldadvantage.com/

http://www.mcstyles.com/

Whether you think you can, or you think you can't.... you are right.

-- Henry Ford

©2008 Kristyne McDaniel
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RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-12-17 22:33:47   Link

I've had to fight excessively to have backup systems and RAID systems because the nitwits always think that RAID means you don't have to do a backup.

I wonder if they argue with their doctors as much as they do with their computer guy. LOL

*************************************************

--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Gil Hale <gil@gilhale.com> wrote:

> From: Gil Hale <gil@gilhale.com>

> Subject: RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:34 PM

> I have a blend of brands for my external HDD units that I

> use for disk image

> and file backup purposes. But not being the trusting type

> I also back up

> the backup HDD units to a 2nd set of external HDD units,

> connected to a Dell

> 840 Server via eSATA. Since having gone to a 2nd layer of

> HDD protection

> (which is backed up weekly to an LTO3 tape drive unit, on

> any one of 3 sets

> of tape media) I have only lost one primary backup HDD. I

> bet if I did not

> have the backup HDD units backed up at a 2nd level, much

> less via LTO3 tape,

> I would have lost a lot more <g>...

>

> That said, a friend of mine in SoCal had a Lacie 500Gb RAID

> external USB2

> unit. He told me last year that he could never lose data

> on that unit

> because of its RAID configuration. "Wanna bet?",

> asked I. Sure enough, the

> other month he lost the Lacie unit. He could not find

> anyone who was

> willing to touch it for less than $1,000 to try to recover

> data. And I was

> not out there to try to help him out. Luckily he moved it

> from being used

> as a primary storage device to file backup only, otherwise

> he would have

> lost a lot of client video he was storing.

>

> He has now gone to the primary/secondary external HDD

> backup strategy. Once

> he has the bux to do so he is going to get an LTO4 Tape

> Drive and start to

> behave in a responsible manner. Some of the video he

> shoots is for the

> medical community for training. Once in a while they ask

> him to splice in

> or out changes, then recompile the output file. So if he

> ever lost the

> source files used for his compilation he would be

> "almost" screwed. He

> tells me he has the original tapes, and can rebuild the

> projects if he has

> to. I advised that I would not put that much faith into

> tape, and pointed

> out the hours of tape restoring and recompilation he could

> save by not

> taking chances.

>

> I have been using the Seagate FreeAgent External HDD units

> for the past year

> (5 year warranty) with good results. If you want to use

> these with anything

> other than XP or Vista you will need to connect the HDD via

> US2 to an

> XP/Vista machine, then run the Seagate software to turn off

> the sleep mode

> (default = 15 minutes, I set it to never sleep, gets saved

> in the HDD

> firmware). That way on a Linux/Mac/Windows Server 2003

> machine the HDDs

> never "disappear" when they go to sleep. It is

> the only flaw I have

> experienced thus far with that model. BTW, I found their

> utility software

> works fine with USB2, maybe with Firewire, but certainly

> not with an eSATA

> connection.

>

> Gil

>

>

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

> > [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com]On Behalf Of

> Kevin Cully

> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:47 PM

> > To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> > Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

> >

> >

> > Thanks Michael. I've got a Buffalo LS (250G)

> that's been running

> > reliably for about 5 years now. I'd hate to lose

> her.

> >

> > -Kevin

> > CULLY Technologies, LLC

> >

> >

> > Michael Madigan wrote:

> > > I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't

> recognized by the

> > network anymore. I could ping it, but I couldn't

> see the shares

> > and I couldn't get into the web admin.

> > >

> > > In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the

> flash memory got

> > trashed. By just running a firmware update downloaded

> from

> > Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

> > >

> > > Keep that in your memory banks.

> > >

> > >

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2008 Michael Madigan
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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Pete Theisen

Posted: 2008-12-17 23:15:14   Link

Michael Madigan wrote:

> I've had to fight excessively to have backup systems and RAID systems because the nitwits always think that RAID means you don't have to do a backup.

>

> I wonder if they argue with their doctors as much as they do with their computer guy. LOL

Hi Michael!

My experience was that they smile agreeably and then don't have enough

money to pay their bill.

--

Regards,

Pete

http://pete-theisen.com/

©2008 Pete Theisen
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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Kevin Cully

Posted: 2008-12-18 07:51:28   Link

I don't know how many RAID systems I've seen fail because the backplane

failed. 5? When they go to order a new backplane for the RAID system,

they can't get a replacement because the tech is too old and it's out of

stock. They want to put the drives in a new RAID system but ... HD

technology has moved on and the drives aren't compatible so ... they'll

have to order something. Which means days of down time.

I'm a fan of cheap duplicated redundant simple systems with failovers.

I think the costs come out to be the same, setup and recover are cheaper

and faster. $0.02.

-Kevin

CULLY Technologies, LLC

Michael Madigan wrote:

> I've had to fight excessively to have backup systems and RAID systems because the nitwits always think that RAID means you don't have to do a backup.

>

> I wonder if they argue with their doctors as much as they do with their computer guy. LOL

>

> *************************************************

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Gil Hale <gil@gilhale.com> wrote:

>

>> From: Gil Hale <gil@gilhale.com>

>> Subject: RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

>> To: profox@leafe.com

>> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:34 PM

>> I have a blend of brands for my external HDD units that I

>> use for disk image

>> and file backup purposes. But not being the trusting type

>> I also back up

>> the backup HDD units to a 2nd set of external HDD units,

>> connected to a Dell

>> 840 Server via eSATA. Since having gone to a 2nd layer of

>> HDD protection

>> (which is backed up weekly to an LTO3 tape drive unit, on

>> any one of 3 sets

>> of tape media) I have only lost one primary backup HDD. I

>> bet if I did not

>> have the backup HDD units backed up at a 2nd level, much

>> less via LTO3 tape,

>> I would have lost a lot more <g>...

>>

>> That said, a friend of mine in SoCal had a Lacie 500Gb RAID

>> external USB2

>> unit. He told me last year that he could never lose data

>> on that unit

>> because of its RAID configuration. "Wanna bet?",

>> asked I. Sure enough, the

>> other month he lost the Lacie unit. He could not find

>> anyone who was

>> willing to touch it for less than $1,000 to try to recover

>> data. And I was

>> not out there to try to help him out. Luckily he moved it

>> from being used

>> as a primary storage device to file backup only, otherwise

>> he would have

>> lost a lot of client video he was storing.

>>

>> He has now gone to the primary/secondary external HDD

>> backup strategy. Once

>> he has the bux to do so he is going to get an LTO4 Tape

>> Drive and start to

>> behave in a responsible manner. Some of the video he

>> shoots is for the

>> medical community for training. Once in a while they ask

>> him to splice in

>> or out changes, then recompile the output file. So if he

>> ever lost the

>> source files used for his compilation he would be

>> "almost" screwed. He

>> tells me he has the original tapes, and can rebuild the

>> projects if he has

>> to. I advised that I would not put that much faith into

>> tape, and pointed

>> out the hours of tape restoring and recompilation he could

>> save by not

>> taking chances.

>>

>> I have been using the Seagate FreeAgent External HDD units

>> for the past year

>> (5 year warranty) with good results. If you want to use

>> these with anything

>> other than XP or Vista you will need to connect the HDD via

>> US2 to an

>> XP/Vista machine, then run the Seagate software to turn off

>> the sleep mode

>> (default = 15 minutes, I set it to never sleep, gets saved

>> in the HDD

>> firmware). That way on a Linux/Mac/Windows Server 2003

>> machine the HDDs

>> never "disappear" when they go to sleep. It is

>> the only flaw I have

>> experienced thus far with that model. BTW, I found their

>> utility software

>> works fine with USB2, maybe with Firewire, but certainly

>> not with an eSATA

>> connection.

>>

>> Gil

>>

>>

>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

>>> [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com]On Behalf Of

>> Kevin Cully

>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:47 PM

>>> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

>>> Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks Michael. I've got a Buffalo LS (250G)

>> that's been running

>>> reliably for about 5 years now. I'd hate to lose

>> her.

>>> -Kevin

>>> CULLY Technologies, LLC

>>>

>>>

>>> Michael Madigan wrote:

>>>> I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't

>> recognized by the

>>> network anymore. I could ping it, but I couldn't

>> see the shares

>>> and I couldn't get into the web admin.

>>>> In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the

>> flash memory got

>>> trashed. By just running a firmware update downloaded

>> from

>>> Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

>>>> Keep that in your memory banks.

>>>>

>>>>

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2008 Kevin Cully
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RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

Author: Gil Hale

Posted: 2008-12-18 08:41:04   Link

I do like RAID5 systems, with hot swap capability and automatic re-striping

of a replaced HDD. Those have worked well. But if the RAID controller

innards go bye bye, you are right, one is totally screwed without a good

backup (and image if it is a boot array). RAID is really good for

increasing reliability and performance as well in the correct

configurations, when it comes to the ability to survive the loss of a single

HDD in an array. But it does nothing to assure me of the ability to scrap a

backup/imaging strategy.

Gil

> -----Original Message-----

> From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

> [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Cully

> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:51 AM

> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

>

>

> I don't know how many RAID systems I've seen fail because the backplane

> failed. 5? When they go to order a new backplane for the RAID system,

> they can't get a replacement because the tech is too old and it's out of

> stock. They want to put the drives in a new RAID system but ... HD

> technology has moved on and the drives aren't compatible so ... they'll

> have to order something. Which means days of down time.

>

> I'm a fan of cheap duplicated redundant simple systems with failovers.

> I think the costs come out to be the same, setup and recover are cheaper

> and faster. $0.02.

>

> -Kevin

> CULLY Technologies, LLC

>

>

> Michael Madigan wrote:

> > I've had to fight excessively to have backup systems and RAID

> systems because the nitwits always think that RAID means you

> don't have to do a backup.

> >

> > I wonder if they argue with their doctors as much as they do

> with their computer guy. LOL

> >

> > *************************************************

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Gil Hale <gil@gilhale.com> wrote:

> >

> >> From: Gil Hale <gil@gilhale.com>

> >> Subject: RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

> >> To: profox@leafe.com

> >> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:34 PM

> >> I have a blend of brands for my external HDD units that I

> >> use for disk image

> >> and file backup purposes. But not being the trusting type

> >> I also back up

> >> the backup HDD units to a 2nd set of external HDD units,

> >> connected to a Dell

> >> 840 Server via eSATA. Since having gone to a 2nd layer of

> >> HDD protection

> >> (which is backed up weekly to an LTO3 tape drive unit, on

> >> any one of 3 sets

> >> of tape media) I have only lost one primary backup HDD. I

> >> bet if I did not

> >> have the backup HDD units backed up at a 2nd level, much

> >> less via LTO3 tape,

> >> I would have lost a lot more <g>...

> >>

> >> That said, a friend of mine in SoCal had a Lacie 500Gb RAID

> >> external USB2

> >> unit. He told me last year that he could never lose data

> >> on that unit

> >> because of its RAID configuration. "Wanna bet?",

> >> asked I. Sure enough, the

> >> other month he lost the Lacie unit. He could not find

> >> anyone who was

> >> willing to touch it for less than $1,000 to try to recover

> >> data. And I was

> >> not out there to try to help him out. Luckily he moved it

> >> from being used

> >> as a primary storage device to file backup only, otherwise

> >> he would have

> >> lost a lot of client video he was storing.

> >>

> >> He has now gone to the primary/secondary external HDD

> >> backup strategy. Once

> >> he has the bux to do so he is going to get an LTO4 Tape

> >> Drive and start to

> >> behave in a responsible manner. Some of the video he

> >> shoots is for the

> >> medical community for training. Once in a while they ask

> >> him to splice in

> >> or out changes, then recompile the output file. So if he

> >> ever lost the

> >> source files used for his compilation he would be

> >> "almost" screwed. He

> >> tells me he has the original tapes, and can rebuild the

> >> projects if he has

> >> to. I advised that I would not put that much faith into

> >> tape, and pointed

> >> out the hours of tape restoring and recompilation he could

> >> save by not

> >> taking chances.

> >>

> >> I have been using the Seagate FreeAgent External HDD units

> >> for the past year

> >> (5 year warranty) with good results. If you want to use

> >> these with anything

> >> other than XP or Vista you will need to connect the HDD via

> >> US2 to an

> >> XP/Vista machine, then run the Seagate software to turn off

> >> the sleep mode

> >> (default = 15 minutes, I set it to never sleep, gets saved

> >> in the HDD

> >> firmware). That way on a Linux/Mac/Windows Server 2003

> >> machine the HDDs

> >> never "disappear" when they go to sleep. It is

> >> the only flaw I have

> >> experienced thus far with that model. BTW, I found their

> >> utility software

> >> works fine with USB2, maybe with Firewire, but certainly

> >> not with an eSATA

> >> connection.

> >>

> >> Gil

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>> -----Original Message-----

> >>> From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com

> >>> [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com]On Behalf Of

> >> Kevin Cully

> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:47 PM

> >>> To: profoxtech@leafe.com

> >>> Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Thanks Michael. I've got a Buffalo LS (250G)

> >> that's been running

> >>> reliably for about 5 years now. I'd hate to lose

> >> her.

> >>> -Kevin

> >>> CULLY Technologies, LLC

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Michael Madigan wrote:

> >>>> I just had a problem where my NAS wasn't

> >> recognized by the

> >>> network anymore. I could ping it, but I couldn't

> >> see the shares

> >>> and I couldn't get into the web admin.

> >>>> In my case, and I suspect in many cases, the

> >> flash memory got

> >>> trashed. By just running a firmware update downloaded

> >> from

> >>> Buffalo, that fixed all my problems.

> >>>> Keep that in your memory banks.

> >>>>

> >>>>

[excessive quoting removed by server]

©2008 Gil Hale