Answer: Vista
I've got this new "hot" laptop, fully decked out. Vista Home Premium.
Okay, I don't have to attach it to a domain so I don't need Ultimate or
anything.
I'm trying to get up and running with my development environment. Vista
says that I'm the Administrator on the box, and there aren't any other
users configured {Opps! WTF?!? I wouldn't have set myself up as an
Administrator if I had known.} But wait! I'm trying to configure a
West-Wind application and it's having trouble running the Console.exe
magic which registers it. It's saying that I'm NOT an administrator.
I'm about to poke my eyes out after a day of frustration when I decide
to Google instead: "How do I know if I'm an administrator on Vista?"
I found this tip to make the Administrator magically appear from
nowhere:http://tinyurl.com/2q56p3
Notice that when you "Run as administrator" there's no password
required. Insanity.
VFP definitely runs slower on my new laptop than on my old XP Pro desktop.
I'm feeling dirty after running Vista, but I need it for day in and day
out VFP development. Oh well. Thought I'd share.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
Author: KAM.covad
Posted: 2008-12-12 16:55:50 Link
I have already put 2 'Crapsta' computers back on Win2000. Solved all my problems.
Unfortunately I need one Crapsta computer to test with because clients are getting it. I will be very happy when people start
buying Linux computers. I hope that 5-10 years from now we are not forced to do business with M$ anymore. It would be great to be
able to tell clients that we don't support M$ crap.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Cully" <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: When is an administrator not an administrator?
Answer: Vista
I've got this new "hot" laptop, fully decked out. Vista Home Premium.
Okay, I don't have to attach it to a domain so I don't need Ultimate or
anything.
I'm trying to get up and running with my development environment. Vista
says that I'm the Administrator on the box, and there aren't any other
users configured {Opps! WTF?!? I wouldn't have set myself up as an
Administrator if I had known.} But wait! I'm trying to configure a
West-Wind application and it's having trouble running the Console.exe
magic which registers it. It's saying that I'm NOT an administrator.
I'm about to poke my eyes out after a day of frustration when I decide
to Google instead: "How do I know if I'm an administrator on Vista?"
I found this tip to make the Administrator magically appear from
nowhere:http://tinyurl.com/2q56p3
Notice that when you "Run as administrator" there's no password
required. Insanity.
VFP definitely runs slower on my new laptop than on my old XP Pro desktop.
I'm feeling dirty after running Vista, but I need it for day in and day
out VFP development. Oh well. Thought I'd share.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2008-12-12 17:15:12 Link
Yep, I tell my customers to pay the extra 100 bucks to have Dell "downgrade" to XP
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com> wrote:
> From: Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>
> Subject: When is an administrator not an administrator?
> To: "profox@leafe.com" <profox@leafe.com>
> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 4:08 PM
> Answer: Vista
>
> I've got this new "hot" laptop, fully decked
> out. Vista Home Premium.
> Okay, I don't have to attach it to a domain so I
> don't need Ultimate or
> anything.
>
> I'm trying to get up and running with my development
> environment. Vista
> says that I'm the Administrator on the box, and there
> aren't any other
> users configured {Opps! WTF?!? I wouldn't have set
> myself up as an
> Administrator if I had known.} But wait! I'm trying
> to configure a
> West-Wind application and it's having trouble running
> the Console.exe
> magic which registers it. It's saying that I'm NOT
> an administrator.
>
> I'm about to poke my eyes out after a day of
> frustration when I decide
> to Google instead: "How do I know if I'm an
> administrator on Vista?"
>
> I found this tip to make the Administrator magically appear
> from
> nowhere:http://tinyurl.com/2q56p3
>
> Notice that when you "Run as administrator"
> there's no password
> required. Insanity.
>
> VFP definitely runs slower on my new laptop than on my old
> XP Pro desktop.
>
> I'm feeling dirty after running Vista, but I need it
> for day in and day
> out VFP development. Oh well. Thought I'd share.
>
> -Kevin
> CULLY Technologies, LLC
>
>
>
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Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2008-12-12 17:25:41 Link
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM, KAM.covad <gmail_noSpam@kenmcginnis.com> wrote:
> I have already put 2 'Crapsta' computers back on Win2000. Solved all my problems.
>
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I have been using Vista for 5 months as my primary computer now and
find it better then XP.
Sure it was a new purchase of hardware, laptop. 250 gig drive dual
core chip and 3 gig of ram.
Past FF screwing the ram, the work environmet is better than XP gave.
The look and feel is real nice.
--
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN
901.246-0159
Author: Kevin Cully
Posted: 2008-12-12 18:18:25 Link
That's what I said ... 5 years ago and it still hasn't happened. Linux
is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was 5 years ago though. I just
like Linux.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
KAM.covad wrote:
I hope that 5-10 years from now we are not forced to do business with M$
anymore. It would be great to be
> able to tell clients that we don't support M$ crap.
Author: Kevin Cully
Posted: 2008-12-12 18:21:17 Link
>From my benchmarking, my Vista 64bit laptop, 4G RAM, 350G HD is much
slower than a 6 year old XP Pro desktop. Yes, laptop vs desktop, but I
would have thought that 5 years of Moore's Law would have handled that
... and more. My benchmarks show it's like 25% slower using VFP. Yes,
that's what counts for me.
I think that Linux with effects turned on looks better than Vista. Just
my $0.02.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM, KAM.covad <gmail_noSpam@kenmcginnis.com> wrote:
>> I have already put 2 'Crapsta' computers back on Win2000. Solved all my problems.
>>
> ----------------------------------
>
>
> I have been using Vista for 5 months as my primary computer now and
> find it better then XP.
>
> Sure it was a new purchase of hardware, laptop. 250 gig drive dual
> core chip and 3 gig of ram.
>
> Past FF screwing the ram, the work environmet is better than XP gave.
> The look and feel is real nice.
>
Author: Geoff Flight
Posted: 2008-12-12 19:42:18 Link
I cant find the article but I read recently about Vista's 'administrator'
and how it really isn't but there is a convoluted way to log on as root and
be able to do what you want. The 'security' is the one thing I hate most
about Vista. It is MY machine and it tells ME what I can and can't do. I
love XP. It just WORKS!
-----Original Message-----
From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Cully
Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2008 7:39 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: When is an administrator not an administrator?
Answer: Vista
I've got this new "hot" laptop, fully decked out. Vista Home Premium.
Okay, I don't have to attach it to a domain so I don't need Ultimate or
anything.
I'm trying to get up and running with my development environment. Vista
says that I'm the Administrator on the box, and there aren't any other
users configured {Opps! WTF?!? I wouldn't have set myself up as an
Administrator if I had known.} But wait! I'm trying to configure a
West-Wind application and it's having trouble running the Console.exe
magic which registers it. It's saying that I'm NOT an administrator.
I'm about to poke my eyes out after a day of frustration when I decide
to Google instead: "How do I know if I'm an administrator on Vista?"
I found this tip to make the Administrator magically appear from
nowhere:http://tinyurl.com/2q56p3
Notice that when you "Run as administrator" there's no password
required. Insanity.
VFP definitely runs slower on my new laptop than on my old XP Pro desktop.
I'm feeling dirty after running Vista, but I need it for day in and day
out VFP development. Oh well. Thought I'd share.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Vince Teachout
Posted: 2008-12-12 20:45:42 Link
Michael Madigan wrote:
> Yep, I tell my customers to pay the extra 100 bucks to have Dell "downgrade" to XP
>
Ditto.
Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2008-12-13 00:20:13 Link
Just imagine how fast it would be with XP running on it.
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: When is an administrator not an administrator?
> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 5:25 PM
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM, KAM.covad
> <gmail_noSpam@kenmcginnis.com> wrote:
> > I have already put 2 'Crapsta' computers back
> on Win2000. Solved all my problems.
> >
> ----------------------------------
>
>
> I have been using Vista for 5 months as my primary computer
> now and
> find it better then XP.
>
> Sure it was a new purchase of hardware, laptop. 250 gig
> drive dual
> core chip and 3 gig of ram.
>
> Past FF screwing the ram, the work environmet is better
> than XP gave.
> The look and feel is real nice.
>
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> Mimeo.com
> Memphis TN
>
> 901.246-0159
>
>
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2008-12-13 00:48:24 Link
How fast would my legacy dos programs run now on 3 GHz computer? It would break the speed of light. LOL
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com> wrote:
> From: Kevin Cully <kcully@cullytechnologies.com>
> Subject: Re: When is an administrator not an administrator?
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:21 PM
> >From my benchmarking, my Vista 64bit laptop, 4G RAM,
> 350G HD is much
> slower than a 6 year old XP Pro desktop. Yes, laptop vs
> desktop, but I
> would have thought that 5 years of Moore's Law would
> have handled that
> ... and more. My benchmarks show it's like 25% slower
> using VFP. Yes,
> that's what counts for me.
>
> I think that Linux with effects turned on looks better than
> Vista. Just
> my $0.02.
>
> -Kevin
> CULLY Technologies, LLC
>
>
> Stephen Russell wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:55 PM, KAM.covad
> <gmail_noSpam@kenmcginnis.com> wrote:
> >> I have already put 2 'Crapsta' computers
> back on Win2000. Solved all my problems.
> >>
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> >
> > I have been using Vista for 5 months as my primary
> computer now and
> > find it better then XP.
> >
> > Sure it was a new purchase of hardware, laptop. 250
> gig drive dual
> > core chip and 3 gig of ram.
> >
> > Past FF screwing the ram, the work environmet is
> better than XP gave.
> > The look and feel is real nice.
> >
>
>
>
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