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2008-02-13 02:33Kristyne McDaniel : [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 08:11Vince Teachout : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 09:15Stephen Russell : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 09:23Leland F. Jackson, CPA : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 11:03Leland F. Jackson, CPA : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 11:21richmondeagle@comcast.net: Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 11:28Michael Madigan : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 11:29Michael Madigan : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 11:32Michael Madigan : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
2008-02-13 11:33Michael Madigan : Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary
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[OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Kristyne McDaniel

Posted: 2008-02-13 02:33:58   Link

I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for supporting her over Obama is

that we can't afford a lot of time learning on the job when it comes to

defense and foreign policy. I believe that Hillary will make a lot fewer

mistakes when starting a new administration than Obama. His resume is just

too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just thinking he needs more

fleshing out in the resume before becoming president.

Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

Kristyne McDaniel

http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com

©2008 Kristyne McDaniel
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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Vince Teachout

Posted: 2008-02-13 08:11:33   Link

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

I'd rather have someone not as mired into the political machine.

Someone fresh enough to be naive enough to think he can make a

difference, and to at least try to do the right thing. The difference

between them is only 5 years, but that's 5 more years of political

favors that need to be repaid at some point, for the NY senator. I'm

for Obama, all the way.

©2008 Vince Teachout
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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2008-02-13 09:15:19   Link

On Feb 13, 2008 1:33 AM, Kristyne McDaniel <newsbox@mcstyles.com> wrote:

> I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for supporting her over Obama

> is

> that we can't afford a lot of time learning on the job when it comes to

> defense and foreign policy. I believe that Hillary will make a lot fewer

> mistakes when starting a new administration than Obama. His resume is just

> too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just thinking he needs more

> fleshing out in the resume before becoming president.

>

> Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

>

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I'm afraid of what will attach itself to Obs coattails.

He will be in for a rude awakening when every black person expects that he

will appoint black people to ALL of his positions across the nation.

I have seen this happen first hand in Memphis and it is not pretty the state

of our city today. Granted our local city and county politicians are so

caught up in the game of their office and not what that office should do.

--

Stephen Russell

Sr. Production Systems Programmer

Mimeo.com

Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Leland F. Jackson, CPA

Posted: 2008-02-13 09:23:08   Link

At this point in time I think Hillary would be better. She has more

experience, and is much better networked than Obama, and I think she

would be better able to push needed legislation through congress with

some arm twisting, than Obama would. She also has more history than

Obama which is both a good and bad thing.

Because Hillary has more History, I get a better idea of how she would

manage the executive branch, and she has a good network of candidates in

making her cabinet appointments. Obama is an unknown with little

history, so I don't have a clue about what his management style might

look like, as he tried to run the executive office, or who his cabinet

picks might be.

On the negative side Hillary's history includes all the enemies she made

during Bill's terms in office, and all the baggage she is carrying from

her attacks from the political right, which seem to have done a good job

of labeling her an up-tight liberal. Obama, having never been in the

national limelight, is fresh.

On the negative side of Obama having little history, it's unknown how he

would do under a "Swift Boat" like attack. Hillary has been thoroughly

investigated, so there is little about her, outside the record, that

could be attacked. If Obama wins the Democratic nomination, the

Republican will begin a very extensive investigation of him. They will

turn over ever rock Obama ever stepped on looking for anything that

could be used to attack him, and it remains to be seen what might be

brought to light about Obama that might cripple his chances of winning

the General Election.

One thing hurting Hillary is the way she appears on TV, and in photos.

She just doesn't seem able to take a decent picture. In front of people

she appear big eyed and excited, talks in a high pitched voice, is

proportionally shorter and heavier than Obama, and just generally seems

more up-tight. Obama on the other hand is comfortable and very relaxed

in front of people, is tall and slender, and talks in a very slow, deep

voice, and he takes great photos both in pictures and on camera. He

come across very relaxed, self-confident and it is easy to listen to his

inspiring speeches.

Another problem that Hillary has is many of her enemies would view her

presidency as another Bill Clinton Presidency in which she acted as

Bill's proxy. Also, having the wife of a former president become

president herself might set a bad precedent, which could come back to

haunt the country in future years.

Obama has done a good job as painting Hillary as part of the Washington

establishment, (eg same-o, same-o), but a Hillary Clinton

Administration, , if Hillary is elected President, would be a dramatic

change to the current Bush Administration, so claiming that Obama is the

candidate of change is really just a spin. Hillary Clinton would take

the country in a new direction perhaps more so than Obama.

Regards,

LelandJ

Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Feb 13, 2008 1:33 AM, Kristyne McDaniel <newsbox@mcstyles.com> wrote:

>

>

>> I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for supporting her over Obama

>> is

>> that we can't afford a lot of time learning on the job when it comes to

>> defense and foreign policy. I believe that Hillary will make a lot fewer

>> mistakes when starting a new administration than Obama. His resume is just

>> too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just thinking he needs more

>> fleshing out in the resume before becoming president.

>>

>> Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

>>

>>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> I'm afraid of what will attach itself to Obs coattails.

>

> He will be in for a rude awakening when every black person expects that he

> will appoint black people to ALL of his positions across the nation.

>

> I have seen this happen first hand in Memphis and it is not pretty the state

> of our city today. Granted our local city and county politicians are so

> caught up in the game of their office and not what that office should do.

>

©2008 Leland F. Jackson, CPA
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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Leland F. Jackson, CPA

Posted: 2008-02-13 11:03:50   Link

Hillary Clinton is the wife of Bill Clinton, who was a two or three term

Governor of Arkansas and two term President of the US. Also, Hillary is

in her second term as a US Senator from NY, which is one of the most

populated states of the Country.

As wife to Governor Clinton and President Clinton, she acted as

Ambassador and confidant to the state of Arkansas and to America. Going

through all that provides a learning experience about politics, how

government work, and how to build a network of powerful legislators

needed to move legislation through the House and Senate, so she has

developed plenty of rough bark on her. She has about 35 years

experience being in and around politics, Government, and of public

service., but Obama is still really young to the game.

I would prefer Hillary Clinton to Obama, but life is good, as I like

both very much and either would put the USA back on the right path.

Heck, even a McCain Presidency would be a big improvement over the last

two Bush Administrations, and would inject a good dose of reality back

into the executive office. <g>.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

> Experience doing what? Threatening all of Bill

> Clinton's bimbos?

>

>

>

> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <lelandj@mail.smvfp.com>

> wrote:

>

>

>> At this point in time I think Hillary would be

>> better. She has more

>> experience, and is much better networked than Obama,

>> and I think she

>> would be better able to push needed legislation

>> through congress with

>> some arm twisting, than Obama would. She also has

>> more history than

>> Obama which is both a good and bad thing.

>>

>> Because Hillary has more History, I get a better

>> idea of how she would

>> manage the executive branch, and she has a good

>> network of candidates in

>> making her cabinet appointments. Obama is an

>> unknown with little

>> history, so I don't have a clue about what his

>> management style might

>> look like, as he tried to run the executive office,

>> or who his cabinet

>> picks might be.

>>

>> On the negative side Hillary's history includes all

>> the enemies she made

>> during Bill's terms in office, and all the baggage

>> she is carrying from

>> her attacks from the political right, which seem to

>> have done a good job

>> of labeling her an up-tight liberal. Obama, having

>> never been in the

>> national limelight, is fresh.

>>

>> On the negative side of Obama having little history,

>> it's unknown how he

>> would do under a "Swift Boat" like attack. Hillary

>> has been thoroughly

>> investigated, so there is little about her, outside

>> the record, that

>> could be attacked. If Obama wins the Democratic

>> nomination, the

>> Republican will begin a very extensive investigation

>> of him. They will

>> turn over ever rock Obama ever stepped on looking

>> for anything that

>> could be used to attack him, and it remains to be

>> seen what might be

>> brought to light about Obama that might cripple his

>> chances of winning

>> the General Election.

>>

>> One thing hurting Hillary is the way she appears on

>> TV, and in photos.

>> She just doesn't seem able to take a decent picture.

>> In front of people

>> she appear big eyed and excited, talks in a high

>> pitched voice, is

>> proportionally shorter and heavier than Obama, and

>> just generally seems

>> more up-tight. Obama on the other hand is

>> comfortable and very relaxed

>> in front of people, is tall and slender, and talks

>> in a very slow, deep

>> voice, and he takes great photos both in pictures

>> and on camera. He

>> come across very relaxed, self-confident and it is

>> easy to listen to his

>> inspiring speeches.

>>

>> Another problem that Hillary has is many of her

>> enemies would view her

>> presidency as another Bill Clinton Presidency in

>> which she acted as

>> Bill's proxy. Also, having the wife of a former

>> president become

>> president herself might set a bad precedent, which

>> could come back to

>> haunt the country in future years.

>>

>> Obama has done a good job as painting Hillary as

>> part of the Washington

>> establishment, (eg same-o, same-o), but a Hillary

>> Clinton

>> Administration, , if Hillary is elected President,

>> would be a dramatic

>> change to the current Bush Administration, so

>> claiming that Obama is the

>> candidate of change is really just a spin. Hillary

>> Clinton would take

>> the country in a new direction perhaps more so than

>> Obama.

>>

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> LelandJ

>>

>>

>>

>> Stephen Russell wrote:

>>

>>> On Feb 13, 2008 1:33 AM, Kristyne McDaniel

>>>

>> <newsbox@mcstyles.com> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for

>>>>

>> supporting her over Obama

>>

>>>> is

>>>> that we can't afford a lot of time learning on

>>>>

>> the job when it comes to

>>

>>>> defense and foreign policy. I believe that

>>>>

>> Hillary will make a lot fewer

>>

>>>> mistakes when starting a new administration than

>>>>

>> Obama. His resume is just

>>

>>>> too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just

>>>>

>> thinking he needs more

>>

>>>> fleshing out in the resume before becoming

>>>>

>> president.

>>

>>>> Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>>> I'm afraid of what will attach itself to Obs

>>>

>> coattails.

>>

>>> He will be in for a rude awakening when every

>>>

>> black person expects that he

>>

>>> will appoint black people to ALL of his positions

>>>

>> across the nation.

>>

>>> I have seen this happen first hand in Memphis and

>>>

>> it is not pretty the state

>>

>>> of our city today. Granted our local city and

>>>

>> county politicians are so

>>

>>> caught up in the game of their office and not what

>>>

>> that office should do.

>>

>>>

>>>

>>

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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: richmondeagle@comcast.net

Posted: 2008-02-13 11:21:32   Link

Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

I like and respect you far too much to say.

--

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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-02-13 11:28:15   Link

What experience does Hillary have? She has none too.

--- Kristyne McDaniel <newsbox@mcstyles.com> wrote:

> I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for

> supporting her over Obama is

> that we can't afford a lot of time learning on the

> job when it comes to

> defense and foreign policy. I believe that Hillary

> will make a lot fewer

> mistakes when starting a new administration than

> Obama. His resume is just

> too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just

> thinking he needs more

> fleshing out in the resume before becoming

> president.

>

> Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

>

> Kristyne McDaniel

> http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com

>

>

>

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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-02-13 11:29:38   Link

Member the "new fresh guy" Jimmy Carter? How did he

work out?

--- Vince Teachout <teachv@taconic.net> wrote:

> Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

>

> I'd rather have someone not as mired into the

> political machine.

> Someone fresh enough to be naive enough to think he

> can make a

> difference, and to at least try to do the right

> thing. The difference

> between them is only 5 years, but that's 5 more

> years of political

> favors that need to be repaid at some point, for the

> NY senator. I'm

> for Obama, all the way.

>

>

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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-02-13 11:32:20   Link

And what's with the Che Guevara flags hanging in the

Obama offices? Don't they know that Guevara was a

murderous thug?

--- Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 13, 2008 1:33 AM, Kristyne McDaniel

> <newsbox@mcstyles.com> wrote:

>

> > I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for

> supporting her over Obama

> > is

> > that we can't afford a lot of time learning on the

> job when it comes to

> > defense and foreign policy. I believe that Hillary

> will make a lot fewer

> > mistakes when starting a new administration than

> Obama. His resume is just

> > too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just

> thinking he needs more

> > fleshing out in the resume before becoming

> president.

> >

> > Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

> >

>

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> I'm afraid of what will attach itself to Obs

> coattails.

>

> He will be in for a rude awakening when every black

> person expects that he

> will appoint black people to ALL of his positions

> across the nation.

>

> I have seen this happen first hand in Memphis and it

> is not pretty the state

> of our city today. Granted our local city and

> county politicians are so

> caught up in the game of their office and not what

> that office should do.

> --

> Stephen Russell

> Sr. Production Systems Programmer

> Mimeo.com

> Memphis TN

>

> 901.246-0159

>

>

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Re: [OT] My argument for Hillary

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2008-02-13 11:33:26   Link

Experience doing what? Threatening all of Bill

Clinton's bimbos?

--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <lelandj@mail.smvfp.com>

wrote:

> At this point in time I think Hillary would be

> better. She has more

> experience, and is much better networked than Obama,

> and I think she

> would be better able to push needed legislation

> through congress with

> some arm twisting, than Obama would. She also has

> more history than

> Obama which is both a good and bad thing.

>

> Because Hillary has more History, I get a better

> idea of how she would

> manage the executive branch, and she has a good

> network of candidates in

> making her cabinet appointments. Obama is an

> unknown with little

> history, so I don't have a clue about what his

> management style might

> look like, as he tried to run the executive office,

> or who his cabinet

> picks might be.

>

> On the negative side Hillary's history includes all

> the enemies she made

> during Bill's terms in office, and all the baggage

> she is carrying from

> her attacks from the political right, which seem to

> have done a good job

> of labeling her an up-tight liberal. Obama, having

> never been in the

> national limelight, is fresh.

>

> On the negative side of Obama having little history,

> it's unknown how he

> would do under a "Swift Boat" like attack. Hillary

> has been thoroughly

> investigated, so there is little about her, outside

> the record, that

> could be attacked. If Obama wins the Democratic

> nomination, the

> Republican will begin a very extensive investigation

> of him. They will

> turn over ever rock Obama ever stepped on looking

> for anything that

> could be used to attack him, and it remains to be

> seen what might be

> brought to light about Obama that might cripple his

> chances of winning

> the General Election.

>

> One thing hurting Hillary is the way she appears on

> TV, and in photos.

> She just doesn't seem able to take a decent picture.

> In front of people

> she appear big eyed and excited, talks in a high

> pitched voice, is

> proportionally shorter and heavier than Obama, and

> just generally seems

> more up-tight. Obama on the other hand is

> comfortable and very relaxed

> in front of people, is tall and slender, and talks

> in a very slow, deep

> voice, and he takes great photos both in pictures

> and on camera. He

> come across very relaxed, self-confident and it is

> easy to listen to his

> inspiring speeches.

>

> Another problem that Hillary has is many of her

> enemies would view her

> presidency as another Bill Clinton Presidency in

> which she acted as

> Bill's proxy. Also, having the wife of a former

> president become

> president herself might set a bad precedent, which

> could come back to

> haunt the country in future years.

>

> Obama has done a good job as painting Hillary as

> part of the Washington

> establishment, (eg same-o, same-o), but a Hillary

> Clinton

> Administration, , if Hillary is elected President,

> would be a dramatic

> change to the current Bush Administration, so

> claiming that Obama is the

> candidate of change is really just a spin. Hillary

> Clinton would take

> the country in a new direction perhaps more so than

> Obama.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> LelandJ

>

>

>

> Stephen Russell wrote:

> > On Feb 13, 2008 1:33 AM, Kristyne McDaniel

> <newsbox@mcstyles.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> >> I'm a Hillary supporter, and my main reason for

> supporting her over Obama

> >> is

> >> that we can't afford a lot of time learning on

> the job when it comes to

> >> defense and foreign policy. I believe that

> Hillary will make a lot fewer

> >> mistakes when starting a new administration than

> Obama. His resume is just

> >> too thin for me. I don't dislike him; I'm just

> thinking he needs more

> >> fleshing out in the resume before becoming

> president.

> >>

> >> Anyhow, that's my opinion. What's yours?

> >>

> >>

> >

>

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > I'm afraid of what will attach itself to Obs

> coattails.

> >

> > He will be in for a rude awakening when every

> black person expects that he

> > will appoint black people to ALL of his positions

> across the nation.

> >

> > I have seen this happen first hand in Memphis and

> it is not pretty the state

> > of our city today. Granted our local city and

> county politicians are so

> > caught up in the game of their office and not what

> that office should do.

> >

>

>

>

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