Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2007-12-12 16:28:09 Link
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Record melting ice volume and temps. Just a fluke?
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On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> Record melting ice volume and temps. Just a fluke?
Well, it was cold one day in someone's town, so that proves that
global warming is a hoax. At least that's what I heard on Fox News.
-- Ed Leafe
Author: MB Software Solutions
Posted: 2007-12-12 16:42:00 Link
Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>
>
>> Record melting ice volume and temps. Just a fluke?
>>
>
> Well, it was cold one day in someone's town, so that proves that
> global warming is a hoax. At least that's what I heard on Fox News.
>
>
Oh yes, you certainly wouldn't hear that on any other news channel. The
global warming must be caused by that guy in the comic you posted awhile
back where he spews fire (and venom/hate) in every scene (and the Dem is
a quiet pacifistic weenie nobody). <g>
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Michael J. Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
"Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"
Author: John Weller
Posted: 2007-12-12 16:57:23 Link
It has been getting warmer for several thousand years! About 10,000 years
ago you could walk from England to France and Germany because of all the
water locked up in the ice caps. Five hundred years ago you could roast an
ox on the frozen River Thames in Winter. Thirty thousand years ago lions
and hippos roamed England.
What gets to me is that all of these stories are pushed by people with an
axe to grind; academics looking to their next research grant, journalists
with a newspaper to sell. Quotes are made of 'averages' but never any
mention of the standard deviation or any other measure of distribution. In
many cases the difference from the 'average' could well be less than the
mean error in the measuring instruments of the earliest times; after all,
the Fahrenheit scale is only 250 years old and there is no mention of how
accurately temperatures were recorded.
I'm not anti global warming theories, just sceptical which is the result of
my training in flight trials - don't believe any claims (particularly from a
manufacturer) until they have been proven!
John Weller
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> Record melting ice volume and temps. Just a fluke?
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Author: Paul McNett
Posted: 2007-12-12 17:06:42 Link
John Weller wrote:
> It has been getting warmer for several thousand years! About 10,000 years
> ago you could walk from England to France and Germany because of all the
> water locked up in the ice caps. Five hundred years ago you could roast an
> ox on the frozen River Thames in Winter. Thirty thousand years ago lions
> and hippos roamed England.
And just over 25 years ago the Arctic ice cap was larger by the size of
about half the contiguous US states.
Paul
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Author: Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
Posted: 2007-12-12 17:15:05 Link
Hard to believe that __stephen *still* doesn't understand (or doesn't
care) what is [OT].
"Is is hot in here or is it just you?"
Ken
On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:57 PM, John Weller wrote:
> I'm not anti global warming theories, just sceptical which is the
> result of
> my training in flight trials - don't believe any claims
> (particularly from a
> manufacturer) until they have been proven!
You seem to impugn a whole lot of people who have done some serious
research, yet you fail to mention how the evidence they have produced
is at all questionable.
People get research grants because their work is thorough and
correct, not because it supports any personal theory. If anything,
the Big Money would be behind the folks trying to pooh-pooh the
evidence, because that would help ensure that they can continue to do
business without being held responsible for their effect on others.
Also, "proof" is a slippery word. You do know that any connection
between smoking tobacco and lung cancer, heart disease, and all the
other bad things currently attributed to smoking has never been
"proven", right? You do know that atomic theory has never been
"proven" either, despite the indisputable evidence of nuclear bombs?
-- Ed Leafe
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Paul McNett wrote:
>> It has been getting warmer for several thousand years! About
>> 10,000 years
>> ago you could walk from England to France and Germany because of
>> all the
>> water locked up in the ice caps. Five hundred years ago you could
>> roast an
>> ox on the frozen River Thames in Winter. Thirty thousand years
>> ago lions
>> and hippos roamed England.
>
> And just over 25 years ago the Arctic ice cap was larger by the
> size of
> about half the contiguous US states.
The earth's tectonic plates are also moving continuously, and have
been for some time. It's when they move *suddenly* that you need to
worry.
-- Ed Leafe
Author: Ricardo Aráoz
Posted: 2007-12-12 17:32:35 Link
MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Ed Leafe wrote:
>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Record melting ice volume and temps. Just a fluke?
>>>
>> Well, it was cold one day in someone's town, so that proves that
>> global warming is a hoax. At least that's what I heard on Fox News.
>>
>>
>
> Oh yes, you certainly wouldn't hear that on any other news channel. The
> global warming must be caused by that guy in the comic you posted awhile
> back where he spews fire (and venom/hate) in every scene (and the Dem is
> a quiet pacifistic weenie nobody). <g>
>
Nope! The global warming is a hoax spread to harm US interests by those
traitorous Democrats who are not "real Americans".... and therefor not
"real traitors" (for to be a "real traitor" you must be a "real American")!
Buy Republican gifts!
Buy my T-shirts!
Pleeeeeaaaaseeee.
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:15 PM, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> Hard to believe that __stephen *still* doesn't understand (or doesn't
> care) what is [OT].
Arrgghh! And I replied without looking, so I'm just as bad.
-- Ed Leafe