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2007-11-08 12:28Robert Jennings : [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:09Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:12MB Software Solutions : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:16MB Software Solutions : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:21Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:28Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:34Robert Jennings : RE: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 13:52Paul McNett : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 14:08John Harvey : RE: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
2007-11-08 14:31Michael Madigan : Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners
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[NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Robert Jennings

Posted: 2007-11-08 12:28:11   Link

Hi All,

Been a while since I posted but I've bought a new laptop with a

fingerprint scanner and this though occurred to me:-

What is to stop someone (Law Enforcement or Criminals) lifting my

fingerprint from my laptop and creating a rubber (synthetic) copy of my

fingerprint that they can overlay on to their finger?

Is this possible or is it science-fiction?

If it isn't science fiction then the whole world of biometric security

based on fingerprints is floored and shouldn't be trusted.

Robert

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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:09:03   Link

On Nov 8, 2007 12:28 PM, Robert Jennings <rej@marinesoftware.co.uk> wrote:

>

> Is this possible or is it science-fiction?

>

It's a well-documented problem. Google for it.

So now, criminals will not only want to steal your laptop, but cut off

your finger to take with it.

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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: MB Software Solutions

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:12:34   Link

Robert Jennings wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> Been a while since I posted but I've bought a new laptop with a

> fingerprint scanner and this though occurred to me:-

>

> What is to stop someone (Law Enforcement or Criminals) lifting my

> fingerprint from my laptop and creating a rubber (synthetic) copy of my

> fingerprint that they can overlay on to their finger?

>

> Is this possible or is it science-fiction?

>

> If it isn't science fiction then the whole world of biometric security

> based on fingerprints is floored and shouldn't be trusted.

>

It's not science fiction....haven't you ever seen the James Bond

movies? ;-)

--

Michael J. Babcock, MCP

MB Software Solutions, LLC

http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com

http://fabmate.com

"Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"

©2007 MB Software Solutions
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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: MB Software Solutions

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:16:24   Link

Ted Roche wrote:

> On Nov 8, 2007 12:28 PM, Robert Jennings <rej@marinesoftware.co.uk> wrote:

>

>> Is this possible or is it science-fiction?

>>

>>

>

> It's a well-documented problem. Google for it.

>

> So now, criminals will not only want to steal your laptop, but cut off

> your finger to take with it.

>

>

Again...James Bond movie: Die Another Day....they lasered-off the guy's

hand above the wrist so they could use his handprint to get into a

specific area of the building. ;-)

--

Michael J. Babcock, MCP

MB Software Solutions, LLC

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http://fabmate.com

"Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"

©2007 MB Software Solutions
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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:21:50   Link

On Nov 8, 2007 1:16 PM, MB Software Solutions

<vfpmcp@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Again...James Bond movie: Die Another Day....they lasered-off the guy's

> hand above the wrist so they could use his handprint to get into a

> specific area of the building. ;-)

And, again, Google for it. I hate to break it to you, MB, but that was

a MOVIE. They didn't really laser off the man's hand. It's pretend.

But there are documented exploits in the real world of fingerprint

scanners. I'm not sure any involved lasers, though.

--

Ted Roche

Ted Roche & Associates, LLC

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©2007 Ted Roche
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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:28:33   Link

On Nov 8, 2007 12:28 PM, Robert Jennings <rej@marinesoftware.co.uk> wrote:

>

> What is to stop someone (Law Enforcement or Criminals) lifting my

> fingerprint from my laptop and creating a rubber (synthetic) copy of my

> fingerprint that they can overlay on to their finger?

>

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/digital-fingerprint-door-lock-defeated-by-photocopied-print/

or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/qxjph

--

Ted Roche

Ted Roche & Associates, LLC

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©2007 Ted Roche
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RE: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Robert Jennings

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:34:12   Link

Thanks Ted & Michael,

I'll be reading up on how to disable it then!

Robert

Foxpro is will die in 2015, what is the next best language to go to?

Python?

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On Behalf Of Ted Roche

Posted At: 08 November 2007 18:29

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Conversation: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Subject: Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

On Nov 8, 2007 12:28 PM, Robert Jennings <rej@marinesoftware.co.uk>

wrote:

>

> What is to stop someone (Law Enforcement or Criminals) lifting my

> fingerprint from my laptop and creating a rubber (synthetic) copy of

> my fingerprint that they can overlay on to their finger?

>

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/digital-fingerprint-door-lock-defeate

d-by-photocopied-print/

or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/qxjph

--

Ted Roche

Ted Roche & Associates, LLC

http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Paul McNett

Posted: 2007-11-08 13:52:28   Link

Robert Jennings wrote:

> Foxpro is will die in 2015, what is the next best language to go to?

> Python?

Don't tell anyone around here I told you so, but Python is a much better

language than FoxPro.

--

pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com

©2007 Paul McNett
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RE: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: John Harvey

Posted: 2007-11-08 14:08:01   Link

INFIDEL!

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From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf

Of Paul McNett

Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:52 PM

To: profox@leafe.com

Subject: Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Robert Jennings wrote:

> Foxpro is will die in 2015, what is the next best language to go to?

> Python?

Don't tell anyone around here I told you so, but Python is a much better

language than FoxPro.

--

pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com

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Re: [NF] Fingerprint Scanners

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2007-11-08 14:31:22   Link

Mythbusters had a show on this.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/250607/mythbusters_high_tech_security_system/

--- Robert Jennings <rej@marinesoftware.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> Been a while since I posted but I've bought a new

> laptop with a

> fingerprint scanner and this though occurred to me:-

>

> What is to stop someone (Law Enforcement or

> Criminals) lifting my

> fingerprint from my laptop and creating a rubber

> (synthetic) copy of my

> fingerprint that they can overlay on to their

> finger?

>

> Is this possible or is it science-fiction?

>

> If it isn't science fiction then the whole world of

> biometric security

> based on fingerprints is floored and shouldn't be

> trusted.

>

> Robert

>

>

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