Is there any 'public' information on VFP 9? E.g we've been hearing about
it, but it doesn't look like there is any info on it on MS's site
(surprise). I've got a client that would like to use the information as
reference material to shut up the idiots in his IT department that say VFP
is not supported by MS.
As an aside, bizarre, observation - doesn't it seem the computer industry
has more than it's fair share of blithering idiots? I mean supposedly
'certified' professionals don't know the basics of computer and
communication functionality. They think .Net is some magic box. They think
Web Services are some new magic communication system. They believe XML is
the only valid data storage format. Of course, when you ask them to go 1 or
2 levels down in understanding and technical detail (e.g. what is the
actual communication protocol used by .Net and Web Services, etc), they get
the 'deer-in-the-headlights' stare. God. Sometimes I feel completely hopeless.
-Charlie
Charlie Coleman wrote:
> Is there any 'public' information on VFP 9? E.g we've been hearing about
> it, but it doesn't look like there is any info on it on MS's site
> (surprise). I've got a client that would like to use the information as
> reference material to shut up the idiots in his IT department that say
> VFP is not supported by MS.
Good question to ask klevy@microsoft.com if it doesn't get answered here.
> As an aside, bizarre, observation - doesn't it seem the computer
> industry has more than it's fair share of blithering idiots? I mean
> supposedly 'certified' professionals don't know the basics of computer
> and communication functionality. They think .Net is some magic box. They
> think Web Services are some new magic communication system. They believe
> XML is the only valid data storage format. Of course, when you ask them
> to go 1 or 2 levels down in understanding and technical detail (e.g.
> what is the actual communication protocol used by .Net and Web Services,
> etc), they get the 'deer-in-the-headlights' stare. God. Sometimes I feel
> completely hopeless.
Oh yeah, there are some good folks to be sure, but there are tons of
'blithering idiots' as you said. Guess they're like
aholes---everybody's got 'em!! ;-)
Charlie
Is this public enough for you?
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/letters/>
Jerry Cotton, MCP
2nd Marine Aircraft Wing
Management Training and Assistance Team
Cherry Point, NC 28533
(252)466-4854
mailto:cottonjp.ctr@2mawcp.usmc.mil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Coleman [mailto:colemanc@acm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:49 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: VFP 9 - any 'public' info
>
>
> Is there any 'public' information on VFP 9? E.g we've been
> hearing about it, but it doesn't look like there is any info
> on it on MS's site (surprise). I've got a client that would
> like to use the information as reference material to shut up
> the idiots in his IT department that say VFP is not supported by MS.
>
> As an aside, bizarre, observation - doesn't it seem the
> computer industry has more than it's fair share of blithering
> idiots? I mean supposedly 'certified' professionals don't
> know the basics of computer and communication functionality.
> They think .Net is some magic box. They think Web Services
> are some new magic communication system. They believe XML is
> the only valid data storage format. Of course, when you ask
> them to go 1 or
> 2 levels down in understanding and technical detail (e.g.
> what is the actual communication protocol used by .Net and
> Web Services, etc), they get the 'deer-in-the-headlights'
> stare. God. Sometimes I feel completely hopeless.
>
> -Charlie
>
>
[excessive quoting removed by server]
That's pretty good. The following FPA article would also seem to put
questions about VFP 9 to rest:
http://foxpro.advisor.com/doc/13520
-Charlie
>Charlie
>
>Is this public enough for you?
>
><http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/letters/>
>
>Jerry Cotton, MCP
I think the most interesting quote from this article is
http://foxpro.advisor.com/doc/13520
"There are currently no plans to base Europa on the Windows .NET
Framework or integrate it into Visual Studio. However, Europa will
continue to include seamless interoperability with .NET."
I interpret the word "currently" to mean that the door is not closed on a
.NET version of VFP. Unlikely, yes. But out of the question - no. (I know
there's a zillion reasons why one can't/shouldn't port VFP to .NET - but
I have faith that the brillance and fortitude of the VFP development team
can overcome these so-called obstacles)
I know - I'm an optimist.
Malcolm
----- Original message -----
From: "Charlie Coleman" <colemanc@acm.org>
To: profoxtech@leafe.com
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:19:08 -0500
Subject: RE: VFP 9 - any 'public' info
That's pretty good. The following FPA article would also seem to put
questions about VFP 9 to rest:
http://foxpro.advisor.com/doc/13520
-Charlie
>Charlie
>
>Is this public enough for you?
>
><http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/letters/>
>
>Jerry Cotton, MCP
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Profox wrote:
>...but I have faith that the brillance and fortitude of the VFP
development team can overcome these so-called obstacles)
Those guys can do ANYTHING!!! They're awesome!!! We're in good hands...
--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
President/CSA, MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
"Bettering your bottom line by helping you work smarter, not harder,
with custom software solutions."
From the article at http://foxpro.advisor.com/doc/13520:
"Create arrays with greater than 65K elements"
There you go, Anthony! Now you can have that dropdown with 65K+
elements in it!!!! <gd&r>
--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
President/CSA, MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
"Bettering your bottom line by helping you work smarter, not harder,
with custom software solutions."
I'm pretty sure VFP 9.0 will be open source and run under Linux :)
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"America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country. " George W. Bush
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is is calculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
That was exactly what I was thinking when I re-read it! Except for now the
SALES DEPARTMENT, who drives the UI specs can have.... <s>
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael J. Babcock [mailto:vfpmcp@mbsoftwaresolutions.com]
From the article at http://foxpro.advisor.com/doc/13520:
"Create arrays with greater than 65K elements"
There you go, Anthony! Now you can have that dropdown with 65K+
elements in it!!!! <gd&r>
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Charlie Coleman wrote:
> That's pretty good. The following FPA article would also seem to put
> questions about VFP 9 to rest:
>
> http://foxpro.advisor.com/doc/13520
Charlie -- let us know the reaction of those blowholes when you educate
them. ;-)
--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
President/CSA, MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
"Bettering your bottom line by helping you work smarter, not harder,
with custom software solutions."