Hi Everybody!
Found myself reading email yesterday AM after work, well past my bedtime,
when I saw this evocative post: "Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed
Leafe". I was thinking I have to break off and get some sleep to be at
least *awake* for my afternoon appointment, but, oh, I have to read this
one . . .
It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all text. It was a web
app called "The Thing". A little text description was to the effect that
Paul and Ed hoped we would like this holiday gift to the community - an
online application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish that
this would help people get work done, understand all the stuff we have to
understand and maybe even make money. All thought of sleep suddenly vanished.
There was an "input box" labeled "paste your code or text here", a dropdown
"identify the best description of your input" the choices were FoxPro code,
.net code, Python code, pseudocode, other code, text, [OT] and Sheep.
Then there was an "output" dropdown labeled "select your desired output"
and those choices were correct FoxPro code, correct .net code, correct
Python code, correct other code, good text, logical, intelligent [OT] and
Sheep. Then there was an "output display window".
Finally there were a series of controls, test, create .exe, create Windows
setup file, create Linux package, create web application. I thought, I have
to *try* this right now.
So I did! First I plunked in my eight year's work of failed FoxPro code,
chose correct Python code and out it came, in seconds! I pressed the test
control and the program sprang upon the screen, just as I had always
dreamed that it someday would. I played with it for a few minutes and found
to my delight that it was just what I had always wanted, everything worked
and worked ever so well.
Then, I popped in one of the most overbearing ad-hominem [OT] posts I could
find on my hard drive, chose logical, intelligent [OT] and out came a most
reasoned, objective version. Remarkable considering that Paul avoids [OT]
and Ed has a point of view that is usually to the D side, but there it was.
Then I popped in the Gettysburg address, and it came back unchanged. I got
to thinking, this is not just software, this is *artificial intelligence*
and they are just giving it to the world for a holiday present!
Well, before I did anything else I created a directory to receive my
completed project, courtesy of Paul and Ed. Just as I was about to press
"create web application" the power to the house went out long enough to
crash the old clunker. I don't use my home computer very often and I
haven't bothered with a UPS, bad me. When I rebooted and got back to
Eudora, the post, the URL, all of it was gone, checked the archives - no
sign. I started to post a message about "what was that URL . . . " Then I
woke up in bed, I'd dreamed the whole thing.
Regards,
Pete
Author: Tristan Leask
Posted: 2003-12-05 03:44:00 Link
Very good, you actually had me going then until I got to the end!
That would be nice!
Tristan
-----Original Message-----
From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Theisen
Sent: 05 December 2003 06:41
To: profoxtech@leafe.com
Subject: Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed Leafe
Hi Everybody!
Found myself reading email yesterday AM after work, well past my bedtime,
when I saw this evocative post: "Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed
Leafe". I was thinking I have to break off and get some sleep to be at least
*awake* for my afternoon appointment, but, oh, I have to read this one . . .
It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all text. It was a web
app called "The Thing". A little text description was to the effect that
Paul and Ed hoped we would like this holiday gift to the community - an
online application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish that this
would help people get work done, understand all the stuff we have to
understand and maybe even make money. All thought of sleep suddenly
vanished.
There was an "input box" labeled "paste your code or text here", a dropdown
"identify the best description of your input" the choices were FoxPro code,
.net code, Python code, pseudocode, other code, text, [OT] and Sheep.
Then there was an "output" dropdown labeled "select your desired output"
and those choices were correct FoxPro code, correct .net code, correct
Python code, correct other code, good text, logical, intelligent [OT] and
Sheep. Then there was an "output display window".
Finally there were a series of controls, test, create .exe, create Windows
setup file, create Linux package, create web application. I thought, I have
to *try* this right now.
So I did! First I plunked in my eight year's work of failed FoxPro code,
chose correct Python code and out it came, in seconds! I pressed the test
control and the program sprang upon the screen, just as I had always dreamed
that it someday would. I played with it for a few minutes and found to my
delight that it was just what I had always wanted, everything worked and
worked ever so well.
Then, I popped in one of the most overbearing ad-hominem [OT] posts I could
find on my hard drive, chose logical, intelligent [OT] and out came a most
reasoned, objective version. Remarkable considering that Paul avoids [OT]
and Ed has a point of view that is usually to the D side, but there it was.
Then I popped in the Gettysburg address, and it came back unchanged. I got
to thinking, this is not just software, this is *artificial intelligence*
and they are just giving it to the world for a holiday present!
Well, before I did anything else I created a directory to receive my
completed project, courtesy of Paul and Ed. Just as I was about to press
"create web application" the power to the house went out long enough to
crash the old clunker. I don't use my home computer very often and I haven't
bothered with a UPS, bad me. When I rebooted and got back to Eudora, the
post, the URL, all of it was gone, checked the archives - no sign. I started
to post a message about "what was that URL . . . " Then I woke up in bed,
I'd dreamed the whole thing.
Regards,
Pete
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Stuart Hurley
Posted: 2003-12-05 04:55:00 Link
Pete
What a tease!
Before I even got to end of your post I was searching the archive for that
URL. Remind me not to read any of your emails around April 1st. Back to
studying tuples...
regards
Stuart Hurley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Theisen" <petet@acun.com>
To: <profox@leafe.com>; <prolinux@leafe.com>; <propython@leafe.com>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:40 AM
Subject: [ProPython] Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed Leafe
> Hi Everybody!
>
> Found myself reading email yesterday AM after work, well past my bedtime,
> when I saw this evocative post: "Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed
> Leafe". I was thinking I have to break off and get some sleep to be at
> least *awake* for my afternoon appointment, but, oh, I have to read this
> one . . .
>
> It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all text. It was a
web
> app called "The Thing". A little text description was to the effect that
> Paul and Ed hoped we would like this holiday gift to the community - an
> online application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish that
> this would help people get work done, understand all the stuff we have to
> understand and maybe even make money. All thought of sleep suddenly
vanished.
>
> There was an "input box" labeled "paste your code or text here", a
dropdown
> "identify the best description of your input" the choices were FoxPro
code,
> .net code, Python code, pseudocode, other code, text, [OT] and Sheep.
>
> Then there was an "output" dropdown labeled "select your desired output"
> and those choices were correct FoxPro code, correct .net code, correct
> Python code, correct other code, good text, logical, intelligent [OT] and
> Sheep. Then there was an "output display window".
>
> Finally there were a series of controls, test, create .exe, create Windows
> setup file, create Linux package, create web application. I thought, I
have
> to *try* this right now.
>
> So I did! First I plunked in my eight year's work of failed FoxPro code,
> chose correct Python code and out it came, in seconds! I pressed the test
> control and the program sprang upon the screen, just as I had always
> dreamed that it someday would. I played with it for a few minutes and
found
> to my delight that it was just what I had always wanted, everything worked
> and worked ever so well.
>
> Then, I popped in one of the most overbearing ad-hominem [OT] posts I
could
> find on my hard drive, chose logical, intelligent [OT] and out came a most
> reasoned, objective version. Remarkable considering that Paul avoids [OT]
> and Ed has a point of view that is usually to the D side, but there it
was.
>
> Then I popped in the Gettysburg address, and it came back unchanged. I got
> to thinking, this is not just software, this is *artificial intelligence*
> and they are just giving it to the world for a holiday present!
>
> Well, before I did anything else I created a directory to receive my
> completed project, courtesy of Paul and Ed. Just as I was about to press
> "create web application" the power to the house went out long enough to
> crash the old clunker. I don't use my home computer very often and I
> haven't bothered with a UPS, bad me. When I rebooted and got back to
> Eudora, the post, the URL, all of it was gone, checked the archives - no
> sign. I started to post a message about "what was that URL . . . " Then I
> woke up in bed, I'd dreamed the whole thing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pete
>
Author: Tristan Leask
Posted: 2003-12-05 05:01:00 Link
Pete,
Heh! I have exactly the same problem! I.E. When I first got Operation
Flashpoint, I played way to much and then I started to have dreams about it!
I think it must be one of the first signs of addiction!
Tristan
-----Original Message-----
From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Theisen
Sent: 05 December 2003 10:15
To: profoxtech@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed Leafe
Hi Tristan!
Imagine how disappointed I was to wake up. Have to get a life when you dream
about reading email.
Regards,
Pete
At 08:54 AM 12/5/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Very good, you actually had me going then until I got to the end!
>
>That would be nice!
>
>Tristan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com
>[mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen
>Sent: 05 December 2003 06:41
>To: profoxtech@leafe.com
>Subject: Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed Leafe
>
>Hi Everybody!
>
>Found myself reading email yesterday AM after work, well past my
>bedtime, when I saw this evocative post: "Holiday Gift from Paul McNett
>and Ed Leafe". I was thinking I have to break off and get some sleep to
>be at least
>*awake* for my afternoon appointment, but, oh, I have to read this one . .
.
>
>It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all text. It was a
>web app called "The Thing". A little text description was to the effect
>that Paul and Ed hoped we would like this holiday gift to the community
>- an online application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish
>that this would help people get work done, understand all the stuff we
>have to understand and maybe even make money. All thought of sleep
>suddenly vanished.
>
>There was an "input box" labeled "paste your code or text here", a
>dropdown "identify the best description of your input" the choices were
>FoxPro code, .net code, Python code, pseudocode, other code, text, [OT] and
Sheep.
>
>Then there was an "output" dropdown labeled "select your desired output"
>and those choices were correct FoxPro code, correct .net code, correct
>Python code, correct other code, good text, logical, intelligent [OT]
>and Sheep. Then there was an "output display window".
>
>Finally there were a series of controls, test, create .exe, create
>Windows setup file, create Linux package, create web application. I
>thought, I have to *try* this right now.
>
>So I did! First I plunked in my eight year's work of failed FoxPro
>code, chose correct Python code and out it came, in seconds! I pressed
>the test control and the program sprang upon the screen, just as I had
>always dreamed that it someday would. I played with it for a few
>minutes and found to my delight that it was just what I had always
>wanted, everything worked and worked ever so well.
>
>Then, I popped in one of the most overbearing ad-hominem [OT] posts I
>could find on my hard drive, chose logical, intelligent [OT] and out
>came a most reasoned, objective version. Remarkable considering that
>Paul avoids [OT] and Ed has a point of view that is usually to the D side,
but there it was.
>
>Then I popped in the Gettysburg address, and it came back unchanged. I
>got to thinking, this is not just software, this is *artificial
>intelligence* and they are just giving it to the world for a holiday
present!
>
>Well, before I did anything else I created a directory to receive my
>completed project, courtesy of Paul and Ed. Just as I was about to
>press "create web application" the power to the house went out long
>enough to crash the old clunker. I don't use my home computer very
>often and I haven't bothered with a UPS, bad me. When I rebooted and
>got back to Eudora, the post, the URL, all of it was gone, checked the
>archives - no sign. I started to post a message about "what was that
>URL . . . " Then I woke up in bed, I'd dreamed the whole thing.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pete
>
>
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2003-12-05 05:39:00 Link
Hi Tristan!
Imagine how disappointed I was to wake up. Have to get a life when you
dream about reading email.
Regards,
Pete
At 08:54 AM 12/5/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Very good, you actually had me going then until I got to the end!
>
>That would be nice!
>
>Tristan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On
>Behalf Of Pete Theisen
>Sent: 05 December 2003 06:41
>To: profoxtech@leafe.com
>Subject: Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed Leafe
>
>Hi Everybody!
>
>Found myself reading email yesterday AM after work, well past my bedtime,
>when I saw this evocative post: "Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed
>Leafe". I was thinking I have to break off and get some sleep to be at least
>*awake* for my afternoon appointment, but, oh, I have to read this one . . .
>
>It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all text. It was a web
>app called "The Thing". A little text description was to the effect that
>Paul and Ed hoped we would like this holiday gift to the community - an
>online application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish that this
>would help people get work done, understand all the stuff we have to
>understand and maybe even make money. All thought of sleep suddenly
>vanished.
>
>There was an "input box" labeled "paste your code or text here", a dropdown
>"identify the best description of your input" the choices were FoxPro code,
>.net code, Python code, pseudocode, other code, text, [OT] and Sheep.
>
>Then there was an "output" dropdown labeled "select your desired output"
>and those choices were correct FoxPro code, correct .net code, correct
>Python code, correct other code, good text, logical, intelligent [OT] and
>Sheep. Then there was an "output display window".
>
>Finally there were a series of controls, test, create .exe, create Windows
>setup file, create Linux package, create web application. I thought, I have
>to *try* this right now.
>
>So I did! First I plunked in my eight year's work of failed FoxPro code,
>chose correct Python code and out it came, in seconds! I pressed the test
>control and the program sprang upon the screen, just as I had always dreamed
>that it someday would. I played with it for a few minutes and found to my
>delight that it was just what I had always wanted, everything worked and
>worked ever so well.
>
>Then, I popped in one of the most overbearing ad-hominem [OT] posts I could
>find on my hard drive, chose logical, intelligent [OT] and out came a most
>reasoned, objective version. Remarkable considering that Paul avoids [OT]
>and Ed has a point of view that is usually to the D side, but there it was.
>
>Then I popped in the Gettysburg address, and it came back unchanged. I got
>to thinking, this is not just software, this is *artificial intelligence*
>and they are just giving it to the world for a holiday present!
>
>Well, before I did anything else I created a directory to receive my
>completed project, courtesy of Paul and Ed. Just as I was about to press
>"create web application" the power to the house went out long enough to
>crash the old clunker. I don't use my home computer very often and I haven't
>bothered with a UPS, bad me. When I rebooted and got back to Eudora, the
>post, the URL, all of it was gone, checked the archives - no sign. I started
>to post a message about "what was that URL . . . " Then I woke up in bed,
>I'd dreamed the whole thing.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pete
>
>
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2003-12-05 05:46:00 Link
Hi Stuart!
You think you were teased, I really did dream that dream.
Regards,
Pete
At 09:14 AM 12/5/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Pete
>
>What a tease!
>
>Before I even got to end of your post I was searching the archive for that
>URL. Remind me not to read any of your emails around April 1st. Back to
>studying tuples...
>
>regards
>
>Stuart Hurley
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pete Theisen" <petet@acun.com>
>To: <profox@leafe.com>; <prolinux@leafe.com>; <propython@leafe.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:40 AM
>Subject: [ProPython] Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed Leafe
>
>
>> Hi Everybody!
>>
>> Found myself reading email yesterday AM after work, well past my bedtime,
>> when I saw this evocative post: "Holiday Gift from Paul McNett and Ed
>> Leafe". I was thinking I have to break off and get some sleep to be at
>> least *awake* for my afternoon appointment, but, oh, I have to read this
>> one . . .
>>
>> It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all text. It was a
>web
>> app called "The Thing". A little text description was to the effect that
>> Paul and Ed hoped we would like this holiday gift to the community - an
>> online application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish that
>> this would help people get work done, understand all the stuff we have to
>> understand and maybe even make money. All thought of sleep suddenly
>vanished.
>>
>> There was an "input box" labeled "paste your code or text here", a
>dropdown
>> "identify the best description of your input" the choices were FoxPro
>code,
>> .net code, Python code, pseudocode, other code, text, [OT] and Sheep.
>>
>> Then there was an "output" dropdown labeled "select your desired output"
>> and those choices were correct FoxPro code, correct .net code, correct
>> Python code, correct other code, good text, logical, intelligent [OT] and
>> Sheep. Then there was an "output display window".
>>
>> Finally there were a series of controls, test, create .exe, create Windows
>> setup file, create Linux package, create web application. I thought, I
>have
>> to *try* this right now.
>>
>> So I did! First I plunked in my eight year's work of failed FoxPro code,
>> chose correct Python code and out it came, in seconds! I pressed the test
>> control and the program sprang upon the screen, just as I had always
>> dreamed that it someday would. I played with it for a few minutes and
>found
>> to my delight that it was just what I had always wanted, everything worked
>> and worked ever so well.
>>
>> Then, I popped in one of the most overbearing ad-hominem [OT] posts I
>could
>> find on my hard drive, chose logical, intelligent [OT] and out came a most
>> reasoned, objective version. Remarkable considering that Paul avoids [OT]
>> and Ed has a point of view that is usually to the D side, but there it
>was.
>>
>> Then I popped in the Gettysburg address, and it came back unchanged. I got
>> to thinking, this is not just software, this is *artificial intelligence*
>> and they are just giving it to the world for a holiday present!
>>
>> Well, before I did anything else I created a directory to receive my
>> completed project, courtesy of Paul and Ed. Just as I was about to press
>> "create web application" the power to the house went out long enough to
>> crash the old clunker. I don't use my home computer very often and I
>> haven't bothered with a UPS, bad me. When I rebooted and got back to
>> Eudora, the post, the URL, all of it was gone, checked the archives - no
>> sign. I started to post a message about "what was that URL . . . " Then I
>> woke up in bed, I'd dreamed the whole thing.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pete
>>>
>
Author: Paul McNett
Posted: 2003-12-05 15:18:00 Link
Pete Theisen writes:
> It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all
> text. It was a web app called "The Thing". A little text
> description was to the effect that Paul and Ed hoped we would
> like this holiday gift to the community - an online
> application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish
> that this would help people get work done, understand all the
> stuff we have to understand and maybe even make money. All
> thought of sleep suddenly vanished.
Pete, how in the world could you have known that Ed and I have
actually been working on such a "Thing"? It is a side-project
to my "Thought Recorder and Full-Text Retrieval" project.
The basic idea is that The Thing will solve all the world's
problems, pretty simple when you think of it.
Ed, you've been putting more work than I have into this. Do you
think we'll have it done by XMAS?
Oh, we need to also credit Dan Covill for some of the basic
framework ideas.
<g><g><g>
--
Paul McSheep
Author: Ed Leafe
Posted: 2003-12-05 16:08:00 Link
On Dec 5, 2003, at 3:19 PM, Paul McNett wrote:
> Ed, you've been putting more work than I have into this. Do you
> think we'll have it done by XMAS?
Sure - just not Xmas 2003!
___/
/
__/
/
____/
Ed Leafe
Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2003-12-05 23:36:00 Link
Hi Ed!
Christmas 2004 will be OK.
Regards,
Pete
At 04:04 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>On Dec 5, 2003, at 3:19 PM, Paul McNett wrote:
>
>> Ed, you've been putting more work than I have into this. Do you
>> think we'll have it done by XMAS?
>
> Sure - just not Xmas 2003!
>
>
> ___/
> /
> __/
> /
> ____/
> Ed Leafe
>
>
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2003-12-05 23:48:00 Link
Hi Paul!
I didn't *know*, it came to me in a dream. Sorry the dream master neglected
to credit Dan Covill.
Regards,
Pete
At 12:19 PM 12/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Pete Theisen writes:
>
>> It was a URL. It loaded like the wind - no graphics, all
>> text. It was a web app called "The Thing". A little text
>> description was to the effect that Paul and Ed hoped we would
>> like this holiday gift to the community - an online
>> application checker/translator, along with the holiday wish
>> that this would help people get work done, understand all the
>> stuff we have to understand and maybe even make money. All
>> thought of sleep suddenly vanished.
>
>Pete, how in the world could you have known that Ed and I have
>actually been working on such a "Thing"? It is a side-project
>to my "Thought Recorder and Full-Text Retrieval" project.
>
>The basic idea is that The Thing will solve all the world's
>problems, pretty simple when you think of it.
>
>Ed, you've been putting more work than I have into this. Do you
>think we'll have it done by XMAS?
>
>Oh, we need to also credit Dan Covill for some of the basic
>framework ideas.
>
><g><g><g>
>
>--
>Paul McSheep
>
[excessive quoting removed by server]