Hi Kurt,

"they know it's a dead language":

- technically false: even if Microsoft no longer provides extensions,

many 3rd party initiatives keep it alive: west-wind, VFPx, VFPA,

FoxInCloud, and many others. VFP remains competitive on desktop and web.

- humanly: hen and egg story and self-fulfilling prophecy; the more we

advocate on how far we can expand the existing VFP code base to new

horizons (web, 64 bits, etc.) the more interest we can grow on VFP. The

more we internalize that we're dying, the more likely it'll happen.

About FoxInCloud,

"Conversion Assistant" is in fact an "Adaptation Assistant" (FAA): with

FoxInCloud the same code base can be deployed on either the desktop or

the Web, just by adapting the existing code base with the help and

guidance of FAA (and our support of course)

"making updates to the system actually means programming in something

that is not actually FoxPro"

FoxInCloud runs the application on the server (reason why the code is

adapted), and replaces the VFP UI by a HTML/CSS/JS user interface, tied

to the server by the user events (click, valid, etc.) through AJAX.

- Adding new functionalities generally requires some VFP development

that you can test in desktop mode before moving to the Web.

- Improving the user interface (eg. adding features that VFP does not

support such as animations, rounded corners, gradients, etc.) requires

CSS/JS coding that you can implement in an application-wide file (css

and/or js) or encapsulate within your VFP classes.

Thierry Nivelet

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Le 20/03/2019 à 06:45, Kurt at VR-FX a écrit :

> Hello there folks,

> I'm looking to get some feedback from the hive mind of this group.

> And, I will admit, I'm doing this kind of last minute. Too many things

> going on lately, and I have not had a chance to do my true due

> diligence! Such as thorough research via prior postings in this forum.

>

> So as some of you may already know, I had a first interview for a

> programmer job at UCLA. The second interview is coming up, it's

> supposed to be this Thursday, but I might try to postpone until

> Friday. Too much stuff going on in my life lately, including doing 2

> different part time jobs and an extended relative who passed away

> recently, that's the reason I'm going down to LA for an in-person

> interview, since the last interview I did via Skype.

> It looks like UCLA really wants to move away from Foxpro, as they know

> it's a dead language. But, they want to move to something similar to

> VFP. I suspect its also because the 1 and only programmer there, who's

> been there for like 30 years and may be retiring soon - doesn't want

> to learn something Totally new. And, also wants to minimize the

> transition! They are asking me to propose what I think is the best

> option. They have mentioned several options such as Fox-in-Cloud, the

> Alpha software, and even Servoy. They did not bring up things like

> Lianja, XoJo, or X# the open source X-base language.

>

> I know that Fox-in-Cloud even offers a type of Conversion Assistant -

> which looks really Great! But, once its converted and running in the

> cloud - I'm assuming that making updates to the system actually means

> programming in something that is not actually FoxPro - as I think its

> Javascript & HTML. But, I could be wrong - and am sure Thierry will

> correct me.

>

> There was also some recent discussion on X# which looked like a

> potentially great option. But, I heard that via the last posting - the

> FoxPro version of the code wasn't really ready yet!

>

> They also told me that they have already been working with Alpha SW -

> and in discussions with them for several months. Which makes me think

> they are already leaning towards Alpha. A quick review of old postings

> in this forum did not show a lot of discussion or users of Alpha. It

> would really be great to hear from some Alpha users!

>

> Anyway - any and all input would be greatly appreciated. I've seen

> Numerous discussions about a number of these technologies here in the

> forum over the years. But, honestly - I never truly got involved with

> any of them - until NOW!

>

> Regards,

> Kurt

>

>

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