Hey Ted, I read your whole thing but am only going to say a couple

specific things:

1) The System76 gazelle is an awesome machine except for one huge thing

and one thing to be aware of.

The huge thing:the keyboard is garbage. My K key only hits half the

time, the keys are spaced weird including a right-shift key that's hard

to hit, the keys don't travel far enough for my liking, etc.

I mitigated this by purchasing a happy hacker keyboard which by the way

after a couple weeks getting used to it is the BEST KEYBOARD EVER. I cut

and painted a thin board and I just put the keyboard on top of my

system76 keyboard and it isn't too hard to travel with, set up and use

on the train, etc.

The minor thing: they don't install the Ubuntu LTS versions by default,

they install the latest version by default. It's a drop-down on the

order screen but easy to miss.

2) Forgot the second thing.

I used a Lenovo T40 for a couple years and liked it at first but the

keyboard ended up not taking my heavy hitting very well. I also have

been using MacBook and MacBook Pro's for the past decade and I think

these keyboards are pretty crappy too to be honest, too much space

between the keys and not enough travel, and they start busting after

about 5 years. But, they can be gotten used to and used effectively.

Paul

On 5/18/15 4:32 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

> TL;DR: What are your criteria and recommendations for a development laptop?

>

> I'm in the market for a replacement development latop, and would

> welcome your thoughts on what your criteria are for a machine.

>

> I'm in the market for a new machine and haven't found the perfect one

> yet. Nearly all of my machines were Dell or IBM/Lenovo Business-Class

> machines, Latitudes or Thinkpads, occasionally an engineering

> workstation. I'm hoping to locate a refurb for a lot less than top

> dollar, what with increasing power and lowering prices. If you have,

> I'd like to hear what you picked and why. Here are my criteria, some

> essential, some nice-to-have. I'd be curious what yours are.

>

> 15.6" screen -- 14's too small for old eyes and 17" too big to lug around

> 1920x1080 resolution: lots of real estate to arrange windows,

> typically I'm working on the lap, no external display. Also the rare

> DVD movie. No need for 3-D as I'm not a gamer, and I'd prefer plain

> old simple 2-D snappy graphics (Intel 4x00-5x00) to nVidia or other

> non-FOSS solution.

>

> Keyboard: good key travel and spacing. I type for a living, 80 wpm,

> lots of code, debugging, and email and documentation and even the

> occasional book. Not religious about it, but Pointer Stick is pretty

> awesome, and older ThinkPad trackpad/real button combos are incredibly

> easy to use. Lenovo made a major screw-up in cost-reducing the

> ThinkPads by messing with the touchpad and removing the extra

> buttons/LEDS - volume, caps lock light, status lights, etc, and the

> main reason I'm shopping around instead of adding the eighth ThinkPad

> to the shop.

>

> Rugged, rugged, rugged: I make money by using a machine that works.

> All of the time. For years. We have an office of old thinkpads stacked

> away, for "just in case" and nearly all of them still work. The

> machine I'm on, a T60, is 8 years old and still a great machine.

> Re-installing an OS and all the apps and preferences and keys and

> repositories is a waste of time and always happens when the client

> needs something right now. This is the cost justification for spending

> $$$.

>

> RAM: so cheap these days its doesn't make sense not to have 16 Gb.

> Could live with 8.

>

> HDD: not all that important, as nearly everything we run is mirrored

> on the LAN and backed-up to the internet.

>

> DVD: sometimes you just gotta burn a disk. I'd prefer it internal,

> even though it will be used 10 times in the course of ownership,

> since the "Rugged" requirement above means I'm going to get a tough

> case with room to spare anyway. Nice to have. Not essential, since

> externals have gotten reasonable and interconnection feasible.

>

> OS: my clients use Windows and I have no choice but to provide some

> level of support. The primary OS will be Linux, since that's what all

> the web sites I run will be in, but there will have to a Windows

> alternative OS, either as a VM (preferred) or to boot into. Since I've

> already got two OSes in the mix, I really think this disqualifies

> Apple as a contender, but I'm open to argument. Ditto for Chromebook,

> although I'm tempted to stretch for the Chromebook Pixel.

>

> Use case: I think things up and I type them down. I spend half my life

> in a web browser, the other half writing code in a bash terminal,

> either local or remote. My local machine typically runs Apache,

> PostgreSQL, MariaDB, and I've got subsets of test data for various

> client projects. All code is in Git. For support, I'm ssh'ing and/or

> RDP'ing into remote machines. A staging machine is elsewhere on the

> LAN where I might support large datasets. Typically little processing

> on the main machine. So, I guess the truth is that the machine is just

> a repository for ssh keys, hard-to-install fonts, and vim

> configurations :)

>

> Contestants: typical machines I'm considering include:

>

> Lenovo Thinkpad T540p: 4th gen i5, 500 Gb HDD keyboard, trackpad are

> problemmatic. Refurb, $660, plus I'd add $100 worth of memory. The 550

> has a better trackpad, but only available new, at at $400 additional

> premium.

>

> Dell Latitude E5540: 4th Gen i5, 16 Gb RAM, $890 at Dell Outlet

>

> System 76 gazelle: i5, 16Gb, 500 HDD, $1033 - Ubuntu pre-installed,

> would need to get Win7 license, likely ActionPack or OEM. Or $1082

> with their discounted i7.

>

> So, congrats on making it to the end of my rant. Tell me what you look

> for in a development machine, what I might have missed, and what you

> recommend.

>

>

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