Patriotism has it place Mike, but not false pride. I listened to much

of the Republican National Convention and got a ear full of the need for

America to remain a world leader with strong preemptive military powers,

and the need for America to be a Democratic, Economic, and Moral role

model for the rest of the world. Condi Rice especially spoke to the

need for America to enlightenment the rest of the world by example or

force if needed. Condi also spoke about, as a young girl growing up in

the segregated south, that she could aspire to becoming the President of

the USA.

What do you think, Mike. Will Condi Rick run for president in 2016, or

perhaps we will have a Jeb Bush, Condi Rice neoconservative bid. LOL

The point I'm making is this approach has already been tried from 2000

to 2008, and proved to be prohibitively costly in terms of loss of

international esteem, loss of life, loss of national treasure and loss

of property, and resulted in almost no return in term of achieving the

desired results. It's also interesting to note that neoconservative,

who register as Republicans, claim to be conservatives, but really spend

more and create more government, than liberals. LOL

It's hard to sell the USA to the rest of the world, as a shinning

example of success, when so many other countries have living standard

much better than ours.

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Excerpt:

Neoconservatism is a variant of the political ideology of conservatism

which combines features of traditional (paleo) conservatism, military

interventionism, social conservatism, nationalism, and a qualified

endorsement of free markets.[1] Neoconservatism (or new conservatism) is

rooted in a group of former liberals, who in the late 1960s, began to

embrace nationalism and interventionism in opposition the rise of the

USSR and moved significantly to the right of the spectrum.

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Regards,

LelandJ

On 08/31/2012 04:51 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:

> Jerry,

>

> This list has people from all over the world, France, Germany, Australia, The UK, China, Egypt, Belgium, India, Columbia, Argentina, Iran, and others. Have you ever seen a single person from a country other than the US ever post a list of things they didn't like about their country?

>

> Why are there so many self-loathing Americans? Do citizens of other countries wring their hands about being too patriotic?

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jerry Wolper <jwolper@swanzoco.com>

> To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>

> Cc:

> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:43 PM

> Subject: Re: [OT] 10 Things Most Americans Don't Know About America

>

>> Ever notice how only Americans hate their country? You would never

>> see anyone from any other country post a list of things why their

>> country sucks.

> Gee, Mike. It's possible to post a list of things you don't like

> about your country without hating it; you may just want to make it

> better. Or should we read all your criticisms as evidence that you

> hate America?

>

> -Jerry

>

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