At 03:02 PM 3/11/2008 -0300, Ricardo Araoz wrote:
>Charlie Coleman wrote:
> > At 08:19 PM 2/21/2008 -0300, Ricardo Ar=E1oz wrote:
> >> Charlie Coleman wrote:
> >>> At 12:32 PM 2/21/2008 -0300, Helio W. wrote:
> >>>> So you're interpreting the Bible literally... Did you really believe=
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> that
> >>>> Adam and Eva really existed? What about Noah's Ark?
> >>>>
> >>>> Not even Pete is so naive.
> >>> Some parts of the Bible are definitely allegory, others are not. From=
my
> >>> studies to date, I believe the stories of Adam and Eve and Noah are
> >>> supposed to be interpreted literally.
> >>>
> >> And your relevant studies would be???
> >
> > About a dozen Bible commentary books. Also several (maybe 6 or so?)
> > Biblical-critical books (e.g. the ones that try to disprove or discredit
> > the Bible). I've also researched some archeology books and resources.=
Also
> > there is a fantastic software program called Quickverse. It's got an
> > incredible range of resources for Bible study (something like 160=20
> different
> > books/studies, etc - but I have not read them all). The Sunday School=20
> class
...
>I see. I did a similar research on Superman. I concluded that if
>Kryptonite were to fall to earth it would consume itself before hitting
>ground. It was not until then that I could have a full night sleep.
...
It sounds more and more like you're desperately frightened of thinking the=
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Bible may be true and God may indeed exist: you repeatedly use these kinds=
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of ludicrous comparisons as if they had some merit.
But in case you were really earnest, lets show just 1 point where your=20
analogy falls down. The Superman story was intentionally created as fiction=
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as can be seen from it's inception. The Bible was intentionally written to=
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show God's Truth to man as can be seen from it's inception. Of course, you=
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may not believe it, but the intention of it's creation was basically=20
completely opposite to the story of Superman.
> >> And on what do you base that belief?
> >
> > I think you're asking on what do I base my believe that Adam and Eve=
were
> > actual people. Basically, I believe in an actual Adam and Eve based on
> > studies from the above, and the various discussions over my life as a
> > Christian. Many years ago I had thought maybe they were allegorical, but
> > then as I studied more and talked about it more I now believe they were
> > real people.
>
>So you base your beliefs in what a book SAYS on what other people SAY
>about it. Whatever happened to FACTS? Or don't they apply in your
>life.... well, if that is so I have a beauuutiful bridge to sell you,
>right here in Argentina.
Yes indeed facts are critically important. For example, in the 1800's=20
(maybe earlier), there were many Bible critics that reasoned that all=20
Biblical accounts were purely fictional, drawing from other myths and=20
religions. However, archeology disproved these theories.
> > And yes, I believe Noah's Ark also literally existed. That one I've not
> > researched as much yet.
>
>You mean you believe it literally existed because you have not researched=
it?
>Well, anyway I also think it "literally" existed. It's in a book, isn't it?
Maybe I need to learn your native language and try to talk to you that way.=
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So, to be clear, the term "literal" in this context means "actual" or "in=20
existence" or "true." I think you knew this, but based on some of your=20
other comments maybe you didn't.
The first question in this thread was why do I believe in a literal Adam=20
and Eve. So I provided several sources of information that I used. You then=
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brought in the question of Noah's Ark and I said I believe that was also=20
literally true. However, I have not done the same amount of researching=20
into that event as I did into Adam and Eve. I was trying to be honest about=
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my approach to what is in the Bible.
Do you have a list of resources you have used to research and prove to=20
yourself that Adam and Eve and the Ark did not exist?
-Charlie
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