Good Theology, Charlie...
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-----Original Message----- From: profox-bounces (AT) leafe D.OT com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Coleman Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:02 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Expelled for questioning Darwin
At 09:42 AM 3/11/2008 -0400, Ed Leafe wrote: >On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote: > > > It sounds like the hang up you have is that God may actually allow His > > created to make a wrong choice. I suppose I'm trying to say that when He > > gave us "free will" it seems He limited Himself in that He would not > > intervene if we did make a wrong choice. > > You continue to ignore the main issue: the fact that we are stupid/ >unwise/impulsive enough to make "wrong" choices. That's a design >decision the Mr. Omnipotent made before anything else. He made us >weak; he made us stupid; he gave us impulses and a limited ability to >control them.
Actually, I believe the first and only choice was the regarding the Tree of=20 Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden. Don't eat from it seems=20 to be a pretty simple instruction. But God did give Adam and Eve free will=20 and they ended up choosing wrongly. Was that God's fault? I don't think so=20 - it wasn't like they didn't understand the one thing they weren't supposed=20 to do. But they allowed themselves to be deceived (free will makes it=20 possible to be deceived). After that first "fall," everything else in the=20 world was "corrupted" - at least our perception of things in regards to how=20 God originally created them. So God didn't design us "stupid" - we did that=20 to ourselves.
To you it may seem more logical to just have wiped out humankind altogether=20 at that point, and the billions/trillions of people since the fall just=20 simply would never have existed. But apparently God didn't choose that path.
The good news is that God did provide a way for us to get back to Him. It=20 was foretold that many still won't accept it - maybe because of pride - but=20 there will be billions that do. It is an exercise in our "free will" to=20 determine which way we go.
-Charlie
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