It is unfortunate that the Garden of Eden was in the the US. Here, neither Adam or Eve would be at fault. Here there is no concept
of personal responsibility. Since God is obviously a 'deep pocket' there would be a long line of sleezy lawyers (I know, I know,
redundant) to file suit against God. Adam and Eve would not end up with any money after fees and costs, but at least no one would
blame them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Coleman" <colemanc At acm DO.T org>
To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Expelled for questioning Darwin
At 09:42 AM 3/11/2008 -0400, Ed Leafe wrote:
>On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
>
> > It sounds like the hang up you have is that God may actually allow His
> > created to make a wrong choice. I suppose I'm trying to say that when He
> > gave us "free will" it seems He limited Himself in that He would not
> > intervene if we did make a wrong choice.
>
> You continue to ignore the main issue: the fact that we are stupid/
>unwise/impulsive enough to make "wrong" choices. That's a design
>decision the Mr. Omnipotent made before anything else. He made us
>weak; he made us stupid; he gave us impulses and a limited ability to
>control them.
Actually, I believe the first and only choice was the regarding the Tree of
Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden. Don't eat from it seems
to be a pretty simple instruction. But God did give Adam and Eve free will
and they ended up choosing wrongly. Was that God's fault? I don't think so
- it wasn't like they didn't understand the one thing they weren't supposed
to do. But they allowed themselves to be deceived (free will makes it
possible to be deceived). After that first "fall," everything else in the
world was "corrupted" - at least our perception of things in regards to how
God originally created them. So God didn't design us "stupid" - we did that
to ourselves.
To you it may seem more logical to just have wiped out humankind altogether
at that point, and the billions/trillions of people since the fall just
simply would never have existed. But apparently God didn't choose that path.
The good news is that God did provide a way for us to get back to Him. It
was foretold that many still won't accept it - maybe because of pride - but
there will be billions that do. It is an exercise in our "free will" to
determine which way we go.
-Charlie
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