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Subject: RE: Sedna Released ("with this the last Microsoft release ofVisualFoxPro")
Author: "Rick Schummer"
Posted: 2008/01/31 13:02:26
 
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>> In line with that, complaining loudly and repeatedly to them would seem to be the best approach,
no?<<

No, this would be presenting Microsoft with a threat model. I don't think we need to do this,
because Microsoft knows the competition better than most companies do. The business approach I am
suggesting is to identify the killer regression bugs introduced in SP2 that do not have reasonable
workarounds. Then determine the use cases where the identified bugs are a show stopper with respect
to adoption. If we can show the limited list of bugs, the reasons why VFP developers can't use the
product, and how we are minimizing the impact to Microsoft to fix these, then maybe Microsoft can be
convinced to deliver SP3.

We also have to present the case to show how the community will participate in testing. I personally
do not think the community really tested SP2 because Microsoft did not hold a formal beta, and those
who reported issues never received any feedback that the issues were being looked at and fixed if
appropriate. This combination turned a lot of people off, and now we have to live with the results,
which stinks.

Rick
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-----Original Message-----
From: profoxtech-bounces .at. leafe DOT com [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Brian Abbott
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 09:59 AM
To: profoxtech .at. leafe DOT com
Subject: Re: Sedna Released ("with this the last Microsoft release ofVisualFoxPro")

Hi Rick

Rick Schummer wrote:
>>> As a matter of interest, have you or anyone you know actually asked
> Milind Lele or YAG if/when there'll be another sp?<<
>
> I learned a long time ago that complaining by itself does no good. The proper approach is to
present
> the problem and potential solutions. Yes, I am unhappy with the results of SP2 too, but instead of
> moaning a groaning I am looking to do something about it. I think the key is to build the business
> case for SP3

Unless I'm missing something, the only business case I can think of
(looking at it from MS' perspective) is that if they don't put out a new
SP it will a) siginficantly damage their reputation in the community
generally, that they've fought so hard to recover after the nadir of 10
years ago and b) following on from that, increasing numbers will go down
the Open Source route rather than .Net. In line with that, complaining
loudly and repeatedly to them would seem to be the best approach, no?

and figure out a way Microsoft can put out a service pack that will be
adopted by the
> Fox Community.

I think the way the community feels at the moment, an SP that fixes the
small handful of major bugs without introducing any more would be
welcomed with open arms. Even if we (or the MVPs) had to do their
testing for them, it would still be better than at present.

--
Cheers

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Brian Abbott
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