On Dec 30, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Rick Schummer wrote:
> This is where I disagree Ed. People are using it, will continue to > use it, and are not looking for > alternatives. "Basic" is relative in this case. I see a ZIP utility > as extremely necessary to > operate in the computing world, and thus it is not basic. Required > is a way better description.
The two terms are orthogonal. A utility to list the directory contents is "required"; I cannot imagine operating a computer without one. But it is also a very basic utility, as opposed to, say, a video processing utility.
There are probably thousands of utilities that can zip/unzip; most can also work with other compression formats. 'zip' and 'unzip' are basic *nix commands. 7-Zip is a great Windows utility that I see being used more and more, and outperforms WinZip in compression.
Being able to compress/decompress is "required", but it doesn't follow that only one such utility that can do this is "required". When there are free alternatives that can do what most people need in terms of zip utils, the ones that cost money will be less attractive, and will only be used by a) those who need a specific feature that does not exist in the free alternatives, or b) those who have grown to love that particular utility and would therefore pay for functionality that is otherwise available for free.
> They already like WinZip as the best thing and won't bother looking > around.
That's case b) listed above.
> They are getting the older version (or continuing to use the older > version) and violate the licensing agreement 10 times a day. Period.
They sound like jerks then. If there are free versions that out- perform WinZip, but they insist on using WinZip without paying for it, then they are simply jerks. Period.
> But obviously from past discussions you don't see this as cheating > or stealing so I won't go > down this road again.
That is a completely wrong and libelous ad hominem argument, and frankly, I'm surprised that you would sink to that. While I don't view failing to pay for software, which is infinitely reproducible as the exact same thing as stealing an actual item, which is not infinitely reproducible, you are not entitled to then smear me by claiming that I don't view that as either dishonest or, in your words, "cheating".
All I've said is that arguments that compare copying a digital bit stream to stealing an actual hardware item are faulty and do not serve to support the position that such intellectual property should be used only in terms of the licensing under which it was released. Copying a digital item may be wrong, but it is not the same thing as taking a non-replaceable item. If I were to take $50 from you wallet, you would not have that money anymore. But if I were to use a $50 program that you wrote, your situation does not change, even though I'm still being dishonest. But you cannot claim that the two are one and the same.
> Cheapskates not paying $30 for simple and required utility are > stupid. Anyone who can afford US$400 for a computer can afford US > $30 for a critical utility. If you want free, go get a freebie. If > you want WinZip, pay for it.
WinZip is not required. Being able to compress/decompress may be, but WinZip is simply one solution to this basic need.
I don't think that you would argue that water is a requirement for humans, but that doesn't mean that Dasani or Aquafina can claim that either you buy their product (that is available for free in lots of other places), or you are a "cheapskate", or a "cheater", or whatever invective you care to toss around.
If something offers a particular value over alternatives, then it will likely be worth paying for. But if it simply does the same thing as other free alternatives, it is unlikely that many will pay for it who aren't "in love" with that particular product. And rather than using derogatory terms such as "cheapskate" to characterize such people, I would call them "wise" or "thrifty".
What, in your opinion, does WinZip offer that 7-Zip does not?
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