*"It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison.
Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty-three years and four months in
active military service in this country\'s most agile military force, the
Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to
Major General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a
high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.
In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."*
~ Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, 1933
Two-time recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor
On 11/30/06, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch At ktc D.O.T com> wrote:
>
> I can see that you have very few friends..
> If I had some buddies on a helo that went down and I saw even one person
> performing what I consider an atrocity on one of the helo personnel, I
> would
> personally machine gun evertything within 1,000 yards to make sure that no
> harm came to them.
>
>
> Virgil Bierschwale
> http://www.tccutlery.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces At leafe D.O.T com] On Behalf
> Of Helio W.
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:58 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Colateral damage of no importance?
>
> Virgil,
>
> I don\'t know about you, but I don\'t think the insurgents had a TANK on
> that
> roof.
>
> Perhaps the insurgent were using small-arms, perhaps even some RPG-7. You
> could try to use similar firepower to kill them. Perhaps you could use
> some
> snipers (I read every army unit has snipers nowadays, you know, URBAN
> COMBAT).
>
> On the other hand sure you could completely disregard human life and fire
> TANK ROUNDS on the house. "Damn they\'re all savages", right?
>
> Probably you didn\'t watch that video Iraq: The Hidden Story, but they
> showed
> a US Army Kiowa helicopter firing on a civilian crowd which had gathered
> near a wrecked US armored vehicle. War situation? Yes. Combat situation?
> No.
>
>
> In Somalia (yeah, read about the events leading to the "Blackhawk down"
> story ), the US forces wanted to nail a local warchief/leader.
> Intelligence
> showed he would participate in a meeting in a certain building. But it
> was
> a local community meeting where most of the people would be civilians,
> local
> leaders, etc. What did the US military do? They fired missiles on the
> building, killing and maiming many people, before a Delta Team went in to
> grab the guy if alive. You see? Want to grab or kill a CRIMINAL but kill
> innocents in the process, showing complete disregard for human life. No
> wonder local people started to hate americans by that time (US Marines had
> been there before and reportedly were well liked by local population). War
> situation? Hmm, yeah, probably. Combat situation? No.
> This incident was told in the "Blackhawk Down" book, which is not an
> anti-american book, on the contrary (an excellent reading by the way).
>
> There\'s a hilarious scene in the satire movie "Team America World Police"
> where the good guys destroy all Paris while trying to stop terrorists.
> Then
> they wonder why the local population hates then. While the movie is
> ridiculous (and outrageously funny), I bet those movie makers are not
> simple
> minded guys.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/29/06, Virgil Bierschwale <vbiersch@ktc.com> wrote:
> >
> > And I suppose YOU would be able to respond to the terrorists fire
> > without harming civilians located in the same building ?
> > So, fess up...
> > Just how would you perform this magnificient surgical strike ?
> >
> >
> > Virgil Bierschwale
> > http://www.tccutlery.com
> > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: profox-bounces At leafe D.O.T com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On
> > Behalf Of Helio W.
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:47 PM
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: [OT] Colateral damage of no importance?
> >
> > Five girls killed in Iraqi clash
> >
> >
> > Five young girls have been killed in Iraq during a clash between US
> > marines and insurgents in the western city of Ramadi, the US has said.
> >
> > A US military statement said militants on the roof of a house had
> > fired on its forces, who responded with tank fire.
> > It said soldiers searching the building found the bodies of one man
> > and the five girls, one of whom was an infant.
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6193620.stm
> >
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