While we are on the subject of global warming/cooling past and future...:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5034026.stm
--- Appy Sluijs points out that the data reveals that some of the climate models used to detail the Arctic's history got things wrong, and as they are the same models that predict our future climate they may need adjusting.
Kate Moran, lead author of one the papers and professor of oceanography and ocean engineering at University of Rhode Island, agrees: "We anticipate that our data will be used by climate modellers to give us better information about how climate change occurs and possibly where global climate might be leading.
"Today's warming of the Arctic can, in all likelihood, be attributed to mankind's impact on the planet, but as our data suggest, natural processes operating in the past have also resulted in a significant warming and cooling of the Arctic." ---
- Bob
! -----Original Message----- ! From: profox-bounces At leafe DO.T com ! [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Bob Calco ! Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:28 PM ! To: 'ProFox Email List' ! Subject: RE: [OT] The Coming Ice Age ! ! The more correct way to put IMHO it is that it's easy for man in his ! arrogance to assume he can cause and/or prevent long-term ! climatological change. In reality, life has been wiped out more than ! once on this planet and it will likely be wiped out again. If nature ! is moving more quickly now toward a new climatological regime, whether ! we contributed to it or not, we're pretty much powerless to stop it. ! But the evidence that it may be happening more quickly followed by the ! conjecture that it can be explained by man-made phenomena are less and ! less convincing the larger your geological time horizon. All manner of ! sudden and seemingly inexplicable changes have occurred on this planet ! long before man hobbled together his most recent attempt at ! civilization. To think economic sepukku is the "cure" to this ! perceived problem is naïve in the extreme. ! ! We are as much a part of nature and its laws as any animal. Do we do ! destructive things? Yes. Will destroying our economy fix the balance ! of nature? Of this I am skeptical, even allowing the speculation that ! economic progress is the "culprit". I see little gain and only a lot ! of pain in taking the kinds of measures advocated by those who feel ! the end is near and we must, so to speak, repent of our modern ways by ! dramatically curtailing our economic activity. ! ! Clearly sensible steps should be taken to be as conscious of our role ! in the ecology of things, but to think governments or multi-nationals ! are capable of sensible things is a matter that requires rigorous ! proof before we trust or require either to take those steps. :) ! ! First we have to define "sensible" and I think this has as much chance ! of success as getting Pamela Anderson and Pat Buchanan to agree on the ! term "decent"... ! ! - Bob ! ! ! -----Original Message----- ! ! From: profox-bounces At leafe DO.T com ! ! [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan ! ! Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:55 PM ! ! To: profox At leafe DO.T com ! ! Subject: [OT] The Coming Ice Age ! ! ! ! Only an idiot would believe that global warming is caused by ! ! man. Why just 30 years ago, the same ! ! morons were calling for an ice age. ! ! ! ! http://www.junkscience.com/mar06/Time_AnotherIceAge_June241974.pdf ! ! ! ! **** New Lower Prices ***** ! ! Horse Racing Photos at http://michaelmadigan.exposuremanager.com/ ! ! ! ! [excessive quoting removed by server]
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