Our children were involved in Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, little league, soccer, church groups, bowling, teen haven, etc. They didn't miss anything other than the odds of being shot in school because they wore the wrong color shirt.
All parents influence their kids. We chose to explain our values in a non-threatening environment, pointing out to them, that they were free to believe in whatever they wanted, as long as they could justify said belief.
My wife was a devout Christian and tried to instill the values of faith, belief, etc. All three chose to follow the Wiccan belief, which flabbergasted their mother, but she acquiesced to the children's belief structure when they supported their belief with the reasons behind it.
Children don't necessarily have to learn to be parrots. We chose to raise ours differently.
To follow your logic, should we not teach against the pitfalls of drug use? Should we encourage them to become crack heads, to learn from experience?
The greatest lessons children will learn will be in the confines of their greater family structure. That's where they will (or should) see love, support, honor, integrity, justice, temperament, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: profox-bounces (AT) leafe DOT com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Leland Jackson Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 3:33 PM To: profox (AT) leafe DOT com Subject: Re: [OT] : Ownership of your kids?
Hi John,
If you are the only connection your children have to the outside world; because, you provided their entire education at home and otherwise limit their experience to diversity, your children will have the same views which you expressed in your post.
They would be so influenced by you and your wife, as the sole exposure to the world, that I could know you by getting to know your child; because, you and your children would be exactly alike in belief systems. Your children would have exactly the same view of the world as you, the same likes, dislikes, prejudices for or against whatever you are for or against, etc. A child's identity should not be forced upon him, it should be acquired as the result of the children's own experiences out in the real world, and the more diversity, the better. You might provide the child with a foundation of right and wrong, but the child must be free to learn everything, not just what is on the parent curriculum.
Home schooling could retard children in many areas that do not appear in the text books, even if the children were academic geniuses. The greatest lessons of life are learned through experience, not in a closed class room.
Regards,
LelandJ
=============Original message text=============== On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 1:28:15 pm CST "John Baird" wrote:
Some don't want their young children to learn that having two mommies or two daddies is okay. Some don't want their young children learning that its okay to suck out a baby after 7 months and bash their brains in because the woman "chose" not to want it. I could go on, but its wasted breath.
Cultural diversity is fine, but can be taken way to far. I've lived the majority of my life overseas. I speak Spanish, German, French, Russian and Italian and you know what? In Germany, you didn't have to choose German at the ATM's. Important Governmental papers weren't required to be published in two or more languages. In Mexico, if you don't speak Spanish, you can't get along unless you are in the tourist areas. We have dumbed down America until all that's left is little enclaves of minorities who affect the policies of the government because of left-winged feel good libs who want to cater to all.
I wanted my kids to be raised as Americans and proud of it, not having to hang their heads in shame because they weren't politically correct. I wonder if this is how the decline of the Roman Empire started.
-----Original Message----- From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces (AT) leafe DOT com] On Behalf Of Leland Jackson Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:13 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [OT] : Ownership of your kids?
Hi Alan,
An important part of any education is an environment that exposes the student to broadest base of cultural, ethic, religious, and social diversaty. This makes for a well rounder citizen, one who is open minded and accepting of differences in beliefs and opinions.
I believe if the school is outside the home, the student will learn important lesson not taught at home, If the school is outside the community, that is even better. If the student has a chance to attend school outside the country, of example within a student exchange program, that is even better as the student will learn many lesson not taught within the confines of our country. The more boardly the student's travel, the more boardly will be his experiences which make for a well balanced and board minded citizen.
Regards,
LelandJ
==============Original message text=============== On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:54:26 am CDT Alan Wyne wrote:
No it doesn't.
While my kids all went to or are going to public school, I have family and several friends that home school. I have worked with kids from home school environments, public schools environments and private school environments. The kids end up having the same mix if personalities, problems and successes regardless of the school type. I would not dare to claim my personal experience is the perfect example for all kids, but I do know that the old belief that Home schooled kids miss out on learning to be effective in groups is just simply wrong. In the friends and family I know that home school, their kids were far more active in groups outside of their home than my kids were. The kids from home school environments do as well in college as kids from other environments.
Alan Wyne
At 11:47 AM 8/31/2004, you wrote: >Hi Stephen, > >Perhaps the kids do better academically, but home schooling deprives the >kids of the most important lesson of all; How to live and get along in >the real world. > >Regards, > >LelandJ > >==============Original message text=============== >On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:40:40 am CDT "Stephen Russell" wrote: > >Does the state have a right to monitor home schooling? Does my child >report to God only? > >Tough line here that a few families are setting up to not comply with PA >rules. > ><http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0831/p14s02-legn.html>>I can see the Statewanting to make sure the kids are getting the >education they need to survive. But when compared to all organized >education systems I have found that the home schooled kids were always >ahead of their traditional schooled friends. Could it be Student >teacher ratio? Probably! > >Stephen Russell >S.R. & Associates >Memphis, TN 38115 > >901.246-0159 > > [excessive quoting removed by server]
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