Michael - ya - it's rather painful the last 2 years . I'll refrain from the
walk down memory lane for the nonce, but I'll say this much.
Every time I answer a question to a programmer from India on the UT ? I also
CC his boss's boss's boss - just to make sure they know that he's really not
aware of what he's doing. Course, I'm biased, but then, it's obvious to
most. I'm all for helping out - but when Mr. Gates stacked the deck last
year with his 'donations' to further computer science curricula there - the
final nail [imo] got into the coffin.
One of the 'cooler' things that was put into the wage bill signed last
thursday was a provision that any and all government contracted work shall
not be awarded to any company who will outsource to another country.
Usually this type of action is set up at the state level, so states'
activitities will vary - but now ? At least the fed gov contractors will be
forced to keep the work in country.
Also - on Feb 4, there will be an L-1 visa review hearing ..
[ http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/fullhear.htm#Hearings/Meetin
gs%20of%20108th%20Congress ]
watch for wrap.
I know it's short notice, but [quoting]:
If you have a replacement story that you want noted in the testimony
please send it to me at emmons AT hannatroup.com [end of quote]
[Mike Emmons is running for Congress and somehow is feeding replacement
testimonies into this particular hearing, whether if READING it into the
record , HAVING it READ into the record, or SUBMITTING WRITTEN testimony
into the record, I have no idea]
[Mike's Websites are: http://www.emmonsforcongress.com/ and
http://www.outsourcecongress.org/ ]
My apologies to those who don't share my stand on this - I promise not to
debate here - only to inform.
For those who missed it the first time:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H1B_GO_HOME/
which has a link [in message # 3876] to
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/india.html?tw=wn_tophead_3
with some 'other comments' about the article from Wired Mag.
A Note to Bill Arnold -
I can appreciate your position. I've done training lectures in Italy and
China the past two years (at a fairly decent rate, I might add) , and am
moving on to Singapore and Indonesia this year as well. I've done standups
to Multi-National Corps in those countries who were employing local labor
there, working on projects typically not for USA consumption. I embrace
world-views on some things as well, so I try not to stay a hippocrit(e), but
in the same breath - if the TeleCom Corridor in Dallas/Richardson didn't
mostly go 'that-a-way' to India - I would not have been looking elsewhere
for my income. Granted - the work went elsewhere due to a few huge banking
transactions going south, but since the work 'still had to get done' - it
went to India for 1/10 [initially] to 1/3 [currently] the cost of having it
done by Texas-based programmers.
I was lucky enough to get called in after 3 projects were failing in India
due to cultural differences in the 'understanding' of the design spec and
get the work done back in Texas - but it was in disaster recovery mode for
those firms [to engage me and my team] and I was happy for the work. But 3
projects out of 44 that went 'that-a-way' ?? Sheesh .. That was 25
programmers that weren't engaged on billable time for those two years.
I've also trained Indian programmers and project managers in Texas that were
in country on L-1 visas. I'm not happy to have said that, but it was either
do it then, or not eat. I preffered to eat that quarter.
Also - MS has a fairly large presence in the Dallas Area in Los Colinas for
custom software development work. My moles tell me that during the past 3
years, over 2700 Indian programmers came in and out for 6 month stints on
L-1 Visas.
On a lighter note ? IT is growing by 600 percent a year in Mainland China
for the last 3 years and there is a prediction that it will not slack off
for the next 5 years. This market has little to do with any particular
outsourcing efforts originating in the U.S.A. My Mandarin is improving -
How's Yours ??
mondo regards [Bill]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J. Babcock" <vfpmcp (AT) mbsoftwaresolutions .D.OT com>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] More H1B/Indian Programming Shop Stuff
> The 10 things on the yahoo groups list are nice to list, but some are
> not realistic IMO at all...some could never be enforced. Although it is
> interesting that Indiana and a couple other states have moved AGAINST
> offshore outsourcing recently and made the news. *That* was nice to
> see. Protectionism? Sure, if that means keeping our careers. [snip]
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