Some good news for some people in the US who do NOT want to lose their jobs(i.e. not Bill Arnold):
http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/040130/15/3hnrw.html
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Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael J. Babcock [mailto:vfpmcp /AT/ mbsoftwaresolutions .D.OT com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:41 PM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] More H1B/Indian Programming Shop Stuff
>
>
> The 10 things on the yahoo groups list are nice to list, but some are
> not realistic IMO at all...some could never be enforced.
> Although it is
> interesting that Indiana and a couple other states have moved AGAINST
> offshore outsourcing recently and made the news. *That* was nice to
> see. Protectionism? Sure, if that means keeping our
> careers. And they
> say "it's just the programmer jobs; project management will
> still remain
> in the US." Ahem....from the Wired article's picture caption:
> "From top: Aparna Jairam, project manager; Kavita Samudra, senior
> software engineer; Aditya Deshmukh, project manager; Srividya Kanan,
> technical architect; Lalit Suryawanshi, senior software engineer"
>
> No job is safe....except senior mgmt (who didn't have anything to do
> with the coding side of the equation at all).
>
> Also from the article:
> "In the next 15 years, more than 3 million US white-collar jobs,
> representing $136 billion in wages"
>
> ....and how is that not going to really hurt the US economy? That
> *can't* be good for our economy.
>
> "I relate stories of American programmers collecting unemployment,
> declaring bankruptcy, even contemplating suicide - because they can't
> compete with people willing to work for one-sixth of their wages."
>
> Am I being unfair? Is it a level playing field in this "new global
> economy" or not? Take IT guys who work in California and have huge
> costs of living...can it be that because the IT industry
> history, which
> has commanded very nice wages, that we are now brought to reckon with
> our lavish salaries of the past and are now faced with the
> bleak reality
> that it's not worth squat anymore?
>
> I tell you, teaching looks better to me more and more. I
> love kids and
> I like to teach/help people. The only reason I didn't go
> into teaching
> was because they weren't paid well at all. As it would look, the
> teacher might eventually make more than the "programmer" ...and not
> because of teachers getting a raise, but rather because the US
> programmer is becoming extinct thanks to this new "global economy."
>
> With all of the mgmt blunders over here (and where the PHBs get such a
> famous---and sadly realistic---reputation, I'd love to have
> the Indians
> (and the like) go into mgmt careers and show the US mgrs that
> they're 7
> figure salaries are also no longer needed/tolerated, just as they've
> done to the real workers down the line.
>
> Thanks for providing the links, Bill.
>
>
> William Sanders wrote:
> > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/india.html?tw=wn_tophead_3
> >
> > but ? I found it when looking at yahoo group:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H1B_GO_HOME/
> >
> > have fun .
> > mondo regards [Bill]
> >
>
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