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Subject: Re: [NF] More H1B/Indian Programming Shop Stuff
Author: "Michael J. Babcock"
Posted: 2004/01/31 14:23:00
 
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The 10 things on the yahoo groups list are nice to list, but some are
not realistic IMO at all...some could never be enforced. Although it is
interesting that Indiana and a couple other states have moved AGAINST
offshore outsourcing recently and made the news. *That* was nice to
see. Protectionism? Sure, if that means keeping our careers. And they
say "it's just the programmer jobs; project management will still remain
in the US." Ahem....from the Wired article's picture caption:
"From top: Aparna Jairam, project manager; Kavita Samudra, senior
software engineer; Aditya Deshmukh, project manager; Srividya Kanan,
technical architect; Lalit Suryawanshi, senior software engineer"

No job is safe....except senior mgmt (who didn't have anything to do
with the coding side of the equation at all).

Also from the article:
"In the next 15 years, more than 3 million US white-collar jobs,
representing $136 billion in wages"

...and how is that not going to really hurt the US economy? That
*can't* be good for our economy.

"I relate stories of American programmers collecting unemployment,
declaring bankruptcy, even contemplating suicide - because they can't
compete with people willing to work for one-sixth of their wages."

Am I being unfair? Is it a level playing field in this "new global
economy" or not? Take IT guys who work in California and have huge
costs of living...can it be that because the IT industry history, which
has commanded very nice wages, that we are now brought to reckon with
our lavish salaries of the past and are now faced with the bleak reality
that it's not worth squat anymore?

I tell you, teaching looks better to me more and more. I love kids and
I like to teach/help people. The only reason I didn't go into teaching
was because they weren't paid well at all. As it would look, the
teacher might eventually make more than the "programmer" ...and not
because of teachers getting a raise, but rather because the US
programmer is becoming extinct thanks to this new "global economy."

With all of the mgmt blunders over here (and where the PHBs get such a
famous---and sadly realistic---reputation, I'd love to have the Indians
(and the like) go into mgmt careers and show the US mgrs that they're 7
figure salaries are also no longer needed/tolerated, just as they've
done to the real workers down the line.

Thanks for providing the links, Bill.


William Sanders wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/india.html?tw=wn_tophead_3
>
> but ? I found it when looking at yahoo group:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H1B_GO_HOME/
>
> have fun .
> mondo regards [Bill]
>





 
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