Hi Bill!
I was looking for the FoxServe thing and I didn't find it. Any idea where
it hangs out? Oh, wait, I think I found it:
<http://www.foxserv.net/documentation/out/Apache.html>
I have PHP, MySql and Apache on CD from the SAMS book as we speak. This
documentation suggests that FoxServe is something to install them. Is it
better than what I have? If I download FoxServe do I get it all at a lick,
or do I have to download all the pieces as well - Apache, MySQL, PHP,
Python, PERL, phpMYAdmin and MySQL -Front? Of course, there are a few that
I don't have in any case. At 26.4 this will take forever. The modem is 56
K, the cheap phone lines out here in the sticks are the problem.
This is the (CD) directory structure of what I have now:
Apache Apache 2.0.43
| +-----UNIX
| -----Windows
| +-----Binary
| -----Source
|
+-----Examples All the examples developed in
the book
|
+-----MySQL MySQL 4.0.4 Beta
| +-----UNIX
| | +-----binary
| | -----source
| |
| -----Windows
| +-----binary
| -----source
|
+-----PHP PHP 4.2.3
| +-----UNIX
| -----Windows
|
-----WinZip WinZip 8.1
DDL? ERWin? E-R tool? Good thing you included a glossary!
You are correct about my being more comfortable in FoxPro, problem is M$
harpooned the project by not letting us use Windows 95. Ken Levy said
something about maybe getting us a deal on Win 98, but the (donated)
hardware won't run Win 98. All the while the BSA was sending us letters
about compliance, etc., We didn't have anything hot running anyway, but the
harassment made me think about asking for permission in advance of our
deployment, permission which I had naively expected to be routinely
granted. I'd like to know who told the BSA about us, considering that it
was a lie. That is one person I would always keep one eye on.
We can't deploy the VFP 5 app (which was almost done, the pre-beta sort-of
worked!) unless and until we buy a Microsoft OS for every seat AND get
permission to use that license to validate the Win 95 install. Since no one
has an extra $40,000 (M$ OS with "charity" discount) to put in our pocket
for this, the whole thing has been languishing for a year. Even if we
bought Win XP for every box, it is still unclear if M$ would let us use Win
95 under the XP license anyway.
We could distribute the Fox application to those who already had Windows,
but since we couldn't use it on the main project, we stopped developing it.
Of course, once we finally re-write in cross platform, it will be a better app.
Regards,
Pete
At 08:10 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Pete - its a designer tool for designing databases and doing DDL and schema.
>not for making UI.
>as it is though - its a good tool. Anything that tries to emulate ERWin has
>got to be good, right?
>There is a similar package that works with VFP natively called xCase.
>
>I know you are not a programmer, but maybe such a design tool would be
>overwhelming for you.
>IF you got the foxserv package I mentioned - you would be able to muck
>around with php/mySql/apache
>on both windows and linux os platforms. That would be overwhelming for you
>as well, I Think.
>
>Sounds like you have a lot of decisions to make here about your development
>environment path.
>I would suggest sticking with VFP of course, sounds like its something you
>are familar with.
>You do NOT NEED an E-R tool to make your databases in VFP - you have a
>database designer tool already built in.
>
>For your question "I can't tell if it can create an exe or runtime
>application"
>The answer is NO and NEITHER. it creates a visual model of a database.
>Cute Visual Thing you can print out and tape to your wall, or put in a
>binder for a client. You can further generate the sql statements needed to
>CREATE the database with all of its rules, constraints, stored procedures,
>triggers and what not, but it is not limited to mySql at all.
>
>mondo regards [Bill]
>----------------
>DDL - Data Definition Language
>UI - User Interface
>ERWin - a software package used for making Entity RelationShip Diagrams
>[among other things]
> mostly the Cadillac of E-R tools.
>xCase - a software package used for making Entity Relationship Diagrams and
>Data Dictionaries
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pete Theisen" <petet@acun.com>
>To: "ProFox Email List" <profox at leafe D.O.T com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [NF] phpBB
>
>
>> Hi Bill!
>>
>> Thanks for the information.
>>
>> My ISP guy says not to use phpBB for what I am trying to do, for some of
>> the reasons you mention, and also "because it would be a kludge".
>>
>> I wonder if you know anything about this one: DBDesigner 4, recently
>> acquired by MySQL AB.
>>
>> <http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/index.php>
>>
>> Acquisition story:
>> <http://www.fabforce.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=500>
>>
>> Looks a little like the fox, has a Windows or Linux version, uses MySQL
>for
>> the back end. I can't tell if it can create an exe or runtime application,
>> but it is freely distributable so cost per seat is not a factor. Just that
>> the full program would confuse the average user, heck, it confuses me!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> At 04:41 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>> >Pete - it's possible, but doubtful. It's a physical security kinda
>thing -
>> >you could always unplug the modem
>> >before leaving the office .
>> >mondo regards [Bill]
>> >--
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>via
>> >email.
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