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Subject: RE: [NF] WI-FI setup
Author: "Bill Arnold"
Posted: 2003/06/13 06:21:00
 
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Thanks, Bob, looks like a good model for this ISP. I'll pass this
information on to him, and follow up with him from time to time to learn
from his experience.

I see the prices he has posted for home users. First time I've seen
prices laid out that way, based on graduated line speeds. It does make
some sense, but the numbers are high. For my needs, the high speed
access would be worth the price, but I'm not so sure for my daughter,
who is just an occasional user and this ISP's typical customer. She's
got 56kb dial-up for $20/mo, and she (and I guess others in this area)
would be hard pressed to pay that much more for faster service,
although it does free up the phone line, so that's a savings.

I wonder how much profit margin is built into this fellow's pricing, and
whether it would make sense to offer the same service at a lower rate.
It does seem to me that prices are too high, but there is a capital
investment in equipment that runs the risk of becoming obsolete fast.

----

My study of this stuff is really looking at it from 2 directions - my
daughter's setup and this local ISP + possibilities of encouraging RV
parks to integrate this capability. One stumbling block for RV parks
would be the cost of the AP's on RV's. From this guy's price list, I see
he's charging $600 for this equipment. That's high. Maybe a park could
buy several for inventory and provide them for a monthly rental, maybe
that would work.


Bill




http://home.fullnet.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=14

This link is just an example of some sort of rural area and a solution
wifi
which is working.
They have one big tower, broadcast the internet to smaller home towers,
which then the home users have a router, which gives each compuer in the
house access to the intenet.

A home user usually communicates to their home AP (access point) the
access
point is cable connected to thier own outside tower, which picks up the
internet from a local broadcaster.

So a local ISP - where cable and dsl is not an option, high power 80211
is
being used. Not everywhere, but one way or the other broadband, is
getting
to everyone,

Power lines.
Satallite,
highpower 8011
New Cell Technology, (GSM)

Every few months, take a look at either www.thelist.com or
www.dslreports.com and see what is on its way for ISP solutions.
Bob Lee



http://home.fullnet.com/coverage.php

maybe this helps.
Bob Lee


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Arnold" <wjarnold .at. prodigy .D.OT net>
To: <profoxtech@leafe.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:43 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] WI-FI setup


>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Not sure I understand all you're saying. Is it that each home that
wants
> to connect to this WI-FI "tower" would need a smart router/access
point
> that receives the (line-of-sight) signal to the house, and each
machine
> in the home would need a 80211 wireless card to connect to the router?
>
> I think what I don't understand is the part about the router being
> connected to the modem/cable/dsl model - since the home would need to
be
> connected to the WI-FI antenna - wouldn't the home reception start
with
> an antenna (as part of the router)?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For home users Linksys / belkin or Smc seem to be easy (I have used
them
> all ) quite easy to set up, Hard for the novice to get the NAT
working,
> if you dont know what you are doing, but the basics are
> a smart router/ Access point //AP , with a DHCP server is purchased
> usually
> about 100.00 used this router is connected to the modem / cable, or
dsl
> modem, and is the basic gateway to the internet for your family.
> Everyone in the house, needs to have either a network card (and cat 5
> cable
> to the router) or a 80211 wireless card to enable communcation to the
> router. / AP you can put in a pcmcia card into a desktop with an
> adapter, (pci adapter) that way you can use the pcmcia card for both
> your laptop and desktop... if you want.
> you can get a 80211 card for dekstops as pci cards or usb connected
> devices.
> or pcmcia cards for laptops. or on many of the most modern laptops
the
> 80211 technology is built right in.
>
> Once you have the AP set up, - configured( 5 minutes max) click on
> your
> network connections, and scan for an avail wirless network,. it should
> show
> up.. you press connect...(from the receiver comptuer) and you are
on.!!
> Running Yes it is that simple.
> outdoor is the same basic technology.
>
>
> Bob Lee
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Arnold" <wjarnold .at. prodigy .D.OT net>
> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:17 AM
> Subject: [NF] WI-FI setup
>
>
> >
> > Setting my daughter up with local internet access, I got into a
> conversation
> > with the small local ISP provider about WI-FI, and he said he'd love
> to
> set
> > one up. I've read recently somewhere that WI-FI networks now
available
> can
> > support users within a mile radius of the antennae. I understand
> Starbucks
> > offers wi-fi connections in stores, but with updated hardware, the
> service
> > can be extended dramatically.
> >
> > I told him that I'd ask around and see if I can learn anything that
> might
> > help him. With it, my daughter should be able to get high speed
> Internet
> > access instead of the slow dial-up we signed up for.
> >
> > Has anyone setup a WI-FI system like this? What hardware/software is
> > involved/recommended? I don't think cost is a major consideration,
so
> I'd
> > opt for the best - meaning the vendors with good equipment that will
> be
> > around for a while)
> >
> > My basic understanding is that he'd need an antennae of some sort, a
> > hard-wired connection to a backbone (DSL/cable), and software to
> control
> > access rights (and ?). As an ISP, he's already got the backbone
> connection,
> > so I *assume* adding WI-FI would be pretty simple for him to do -
just
> order
> > the hardware, install it, give out some access rights and turn it
on.
> >
> > I guess users would have to buy (rent; be provided with) hardware to
> get
> to
> > the WI-FI network, such as a USB connected antennae, like the one
used
> for
> > wireless keyboards/mice?
> >
> > For those interested in earning side-money, I betcha do these setups
> (incl
> > users who don't have USB 2 cards) would be a profitable side job.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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