Don't let the client bail. There is a solution. Bailing would be a black eye for all.
5/30/03 12:23:12 PM, Zav - Alex Zavatone <zavpublic .at. mac .DO.T com> wrote:
>>on 5/29/03 7:16 PM, Zav - Alex Zavatone at zavpublic@mac.com wrote:
>>
>>Hi Zav,
>>
>>> Please bear with me since this is not pretty.
>>>
>>> I have asked for this once before and stated that my need was rather
>>> important.
>>>
>>> Partially, as a result of the crashes in Valentina, I am having to
>>> bail on a twenty thousand dollar contract and return ten thousand
>>> dollars to the client.
>>>
>>> Ruslan I formally BEG you to evaluate putting in ONE if statement in
>>> opendatabase to check if Valentina is properly inited return an error
>> > message instead of crashing Director if it not.
>>
>>I will do this of course.
>>
>
>Thank you.
>
>> > You said, you wanted speed in your xtra? I want my xtras NOT TO
>>> CRASH MY PROJECT while I am creating it. One if statement should not
>>> impact performance by any large margin. I have no idea why you will
>>> still not do this for your customers. This simple check will help
>>> trap the majority of crashes since you have to open a database before
>>> you do any operations on it right?
>>
>>I have told you that if you set DebugLevel 2
>>Then Valentina start do that checks.
>
>And I told you that is does not. It STILL crashes Director on OS X.
>And When Director crashes on OS X, you can not save any changes you
>have made to the project. My momentum and changes are both lost
>
>
>>And again, I have told that Database Xtras do not like INTERACTIVE calls of
>>database methods from Message Window. You need set up script functions and
>>they must be executed as ATOMIC calls.
>>
>>> Valentina as an xtra to Director MUST play nicely within the world of
>>> Director but I understand you can not and should not trap all
>>> handlers for improper actions.
>>>
>
>> > Simply not protecting your users by checking that Valentina is inited
>>> properly open Database is unconscionable.
>>
>>> If you doubt my programming background and aptitude, please bear in
>>> mind that I spent 4 years on the Director and Shockwave development
>>> teams, co founded Director-Online and have written my own foundation
>>> classes for Director, edited Lingo In a Nutshell and have contributed
>>> to the Director user community since 1996.
>>
>>In the same time I afraid you are the first developer who have fail to
>>finish project with V4MD.
>
>To the tune of ten thousand dollars.
>
>I USE Director. Bend it, break it, make it do difficult things. It
>is very hard for me to not use the message window to test things out
>and create a project.
>
>>I am very upset too.
>>
>>And I think, you was need better pay few hundreds of $$$ to some developer
>>which could help you. Because excuse me, if you was need 2 weeks to simply
>>create table and add few records, this sounds not confusing...
>
>This is a second job. I have arthritis in my spine from working at
>Macormedia. Before this, I could deal with most anything. After
>this, many things new and difficult become unmanageable. Dealing
>with creating a complex application and trying to learn an xtra that
>crashes my development environment makes it nearly impossible to
>
>>At least one developer Gunnar, have point you many times that Valentina is
>>very stable. And believe me, during last years, hundreds developer have get
>>success with V4MD and other Valentina products to develop projects and apps
>>which are distributed up to tens of thousands of copies.
>
>Yes and Gunnar has stated to me that he had the same problem with
>Valentina that I have. Finally, today, I realized that he wrote a
>valentina manager object that would handle the case of valentina
>being inited or not when making call to the xtra. Though this is
>nice to finally understand, it is several months too late.
>
>>And I wonder...you have keep silent too long.
>>Gunnar was going help you. Everybody was sure that you are all right.
>>Zav, I think many developer can confirm that when somebody have catch
>>deadline crisis, I have not go sleep until we get together success.
>>And up to now I have never get payment for such kind of support btw.
>>Just Your success is my success. Your failure is my failure.
>>You was need cry on list. You was need ask me for help if all was so bad.
>
>I DID ask you and you told me that you wanted speed and not to use
>the message window. This was not much help and in the end, I could
>not regain the momentum to finish the project.
>
>This is my first major failure and I'm not very happy about it either.
>
>>Let's hope in future you will know this.
>
>Let's hope I can scrounge up ten thousand dollars to pay my client back.
>
>I look forwards to working past this.
>--
>- Zav
>Wanted: One new spine. Accepting applications from potential donors.
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Best Regards,
Gunnar Swan
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