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Subject: RE: State of VFP in the market place
Author: "Stephen Russell"
Posted: 2003/04/30 16:11:00
 
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Will our local leaders give our influx of Mexican immigrants affirmative
action? I don't think so. So it's now designed to act as a "Good Ole Boy
Club" <boy is NOT the operative word here>. When our leaders say it's only
to give African American Minority companies assistance I call that crap.


from http://www.infoplease.com/spot/affirmative1.html
"A Temporary Measure to Level the Playing Field

FOCUSING in particular on education and jobs, affirmative action policies
required that active measures be taken to ensure that blacks and other
minorities enjoyed the same opportunities for promotions, salary increases,
career advancement, school admissions, scholarships, and financial aid that
had been the nearly exclusive province of whites. From the outset,
affirmative action was envisioned as a temporary remedy that would end once
there was a "level playing field" for all Americans."

I feel that our "Memphis" recent activity over bids is nothing at all to do
with the above. When the governmental agency over the construction makes
the offers on the bids received it's a done deal. If they had made a second
call because they failed to get enough of a "Black" owned business pursuant
to Memphis Policy, fine.

But to have contracts and rescind them because the "Black" ownership isn't
high enough and were going to FIX that.


I wonder who determines when Temporary is over? Jesse Jackson, or Harold
Ford Jr.? I think that Jr. would say it's done.



Stephen Russell
S.R. & Associates
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

The Tao is embodied in all software - regardless of how insignificant, said
the master. Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator? asked the novice. It is,
came the reply. And is the Tao in XP?
The master coughed and shifted his position slightly. The lesson is over
for today, he said.

The Tao of Programming.


-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin .AT. leafe D.OT com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf Of
John V. Petersen
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 3:18 PM
To: profox .AT. leafe D.OT com
Subject: RE: State of VFP in the market place


So its safe to say that you are against affirmative action then.... < bg
>...

< JVP >



-----Original Message-----
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Of Stephen Russell
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 3:56 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: State of VFP in the market place


Racism is rampant here. Black population is 62 or 68% of the total yet
the cry of minority rights is in the paper or TV news is mentioned on a
daily basis. Currently we are building a new Basketball arena. The
city leaders are calling for NEW bids on it's construction so MORE
minority contracts can be awarded.

Why reward someone who can't make out a bid sheet properly in the first
place with a second chance? Many of the first round of bids were
incomplete, LATE, WRONG, or Too Much Money. So we punish a company that
did it right, retract the contract, to allow a screw up another shot.

I'm not a racist. I see this as a way for our community to pay more $
for the same job when it all comes to pass. It's the economy issue I
see.



Stephen Russell
S.R. & Associates
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159
-----Original Message-----
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John V. Petersen
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 1:52 PM
To: profox .AT. leafe D.OT com
Subject: RE: State of VFP in the market place


<<
It's not what you know it's what you can get away with here in Memphis.
<<

What exactly do you mean by this?

< JVP >



-----Original Message-----
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Of Stephen Russell
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 1:53 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: State of VFP in the market place


I wanted a $ range and they had a good guess on it without asking. That
value puts me in the consulting range, because it's a "State Rules" type
of company. I had to fill out paper work for Equal Rights in the
workforce. Being a white male they could be forced to take anybody else
because of a Race card being drawn or Gender issue. It's not what you
know it's what you can get away with here in Memphis.

Stephen Russell
S.R. & Associates
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

The Tao is embodied in all software - regardless of how insignificant,
said the master. Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator? asked the
novice. It is, came the reply. And is the Tao in XP? The master
coughed and shifted his position slightly. The lesson is over for
today, he said.

The Tao of Programming.


-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin .AT. leafe D.OT com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf Of
profox .AT. mbsoftwaresolutions D.OT com
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:01 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: State of VFP in the market place


> IT director said that I was over qualified for the job offered.

See what answering those questions smart gets you? ;-)

Would you have wanted that job or rathered the consultant role?

--Michael

Michael J. Babcock, MCP
President/CEO, MB Software Solutions http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
"Helping your team work smarter, not harder, to better your bottom
line."



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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:03:28 -0500, "Stephen Russell"
<srussell .AT. lotmate D.OT com>
wrote:

> I went to an interview last night for a developer position. I read it

> and saw FoxPro porting to new environment (VB) so I thought that I was

> a shoe in. Business is a State Funded HMO, largest in TN.
>
> Well I got there and was hammered on by 5 developers as to my
> knowledge in VFP & SQL Server for DW's. Questions weren't that tough.
>
> Are you using VFP7 yet? No I'm fully into 8. How would you bring
> data
into
> Excel? I'd have a template in Excel for my layout, from oExcel I'd
> get a new sheet via that template. I'd then pull the data from Excel

> into the "pretty" sheet instead of all that com work from VFP. The
> look on this
guys
> face was like he was in shock. Would you use a framework like VFE or
> do everything from VFP? My reply was "if you haven't created your own

> Framework in house yet you better go and buy one. VFE is a great one
> to purchase."
>
> Their DW is to the point of being a canned report bin. They don't
> have
the
> concept of Marts yet, nor do they comprehend that it's their data. I
> told them that they needed to gain control of the data infrastructure
> and just give the State necessary info as requested. Currently they
> wait on the State and develop/deploy on what the State says.
>
> The reason they are going away from VFP (75 different apps running in
> the
> company) is they got funding for an eCommerce app that takes 50% of
the
> workload. They can't find any talent to take up the slack. Switching
to
VB
> or ANYTHING else is the only way to succeed.
>
> I asked him why I had never seen any of his 20 developers at my VFP UG
over
> the past 15 years? Had he been there he could have found some talent,

> and more importantly gotten answers to issues. Instead it's dried up
> because only 3 of us wanted to do it. It wasn't worth the time to put

> a show together for 2 other people.
>
> IT director said that I was over qualified for the job offered. He
> wants
me
> to act as a consultant when the next guideline is delivered from the
State.
> He can get consulting funding at that time.
>
>
> Stephen Russell
> S.R. & Associates
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159


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