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Subject: RE: [OT] Erwin pricing?
Author: "Stephen Russell"
Posted: 2003/02/28 16:12:00
 
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>>Since your experience with xCase are from 1999, you really should check it
out again. It's four years and three versions later. The Trial version is
the Pro version with support for all datamodels.

Too many toys and too little time!

I'm spending as much time in c# as possible these days.

Stephen Russell
S.R. & Associates
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159



-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin /at/ leafe .D.OT com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf Of
Jürgen Wondzinski
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:34 PM
To: profox /at/ leafe .D.OT com
Subject: RE: [OT] Erwin pricing?


Hi Stephen,

For my understanding, Visio is something like a "general purpose
visualisation toolkit". Yes, it can build models of your house, , of your
model train tracks as well as of your classes and your data. But in contrast
to a highly specialized tool like VisualUML or RationalRose (for Class
Design) or xCase and Erwin (for Database design) there's a lot lacking.
xCase generates all necessary scripts for creating the database as well as
transferring and massaging the data. It also creates the necessary trigger
code and the Stored procedures, depending on the possibilities of the
backend. Haven't found that in Visio.

Since your experience with xCase are from 1999, you really should check it
out again. It's four years and three versions later. The Trial version is
the Pro version with support for all datamodels.




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-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin /at/ leafe .D.OT com] On Behalf Of
Stephen Russell
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:48 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Erwin pricing?


I had a copy of the Pro version with a former company. It wasn't close to
the capabilities of Power Designer, but then at 1/4 the cost you are getting
what you paid for, a decent modeling tool.

I really hated all the tables that xCase generated that seemed to pop into
the area that I was just working in. Finding out after the fact was a pain.

Issues that I am remembering were identity columns, the use of Next_ID in
the DBC. Coming from a FoxPro specific vendor I was expecting primary keys
to become identities in SQL Server. This goes back to a 1999 version of
xCase on VFP6.

Now back to other assertions. In the high dollar version you have not only
a data layer but objects and ability to easily convert between presentation
styles. Oh yeah they can also go between all different providers giving you
scripts to run on your own or through the tool.

Have you used Visio in the .NET version? I think it's superior to the xCase
product and probably half the cost, off the top of my head. You get it as
part of the MSDN subscription too!


Stephen Russell
S.R. & Associates
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159



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