Re: [NF] Looking for current summary of VFP clones

Author: Kurt at VR-FX

Posted: 2019-03-14 at 22:26:58

Hey there Kevin - you of the BucketHead Fandom!

Your discourse on a re-write strikes a Nerve more than you can

imagine!!! Why? Well, to answer that I MUST start a New Thread! And, its

overdue for me to do it. But, alas - been WAY Overwhelmed here. Been

working 2 different PT gigs(Parrots & Teaching - but, NOT teaching

Parrots), and now doing a big move of crap out of this "storage" room at

my sister's house. On top of that, I MUST Prepare for this UCLA 2nd

interview - thus the re-write commentary. Of course, I do NOT want to

hijack this thread. So, I will start a new one. Hopefully either

tomorrow or Sat. - for which I need to crack open a Serious discussions

about Re-writes, alternate tech., reasons for picking certain tech. -

all in order to formulate a VERY specific response to UCLA. Although,

must admit - its a Bitch to go THIS Far (including a "written"

programming test I must complete) - all for a job that pays a bit TOO

low! Ugh...

-K-

On 3/14/2019 10:00 AM, Kevin J Cully wrote:

> I think this is key. You all know that I'm a huge Xojo fan, however I can't ever believe that rewriting an application for something other than a real concrete reason is a good idea. Basically if you are wondering if you should rewrite a VFP application, then the answer is "no" already. If you know you need to rewrite a VFP application, then you already know why it needs to be rewritten, by definition. (Examples: Needs cross platform. Needs 64-bit. Can't interface with 'X'. etc.)

>

> Great post Thierry.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet

> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:24 AM

> To: profox@leafe.com

> Subject: Re: [NF] Looking for current summary of VFP clones

>

> Hi Fletscher,

>

> Does your client really knows that, since 10 is the last version of Windows, VFP will work as long as Windows 10 will work, and re-write and/or migration will bring nothing but cost and risk without a single benefit (except for those who rewrite): learning, moving data to SQL if not already, rewriting, testing, retraining users, managing the transition with part of the app in VFP and part in the new system (no new app ever work overnight), etc., maybe loss of functionalities, and risk that the transition works out badly…

>

> Seeking alternatives to FoxPro was valid until Microsoft announced that Windows 10 was the last version (in may 2015, almost 4 years ago), today it's just seeking cost and risk for no other benefit than 'doing someting new'.

>

> VFP is incredibly reliable; some FoxInCloud clients have FoxInCloud web apps with over 50 forms (could be more), 50 concurrent users (could be more), PostgreSQL database, 8 logical servers in parallel (stateless, many-to-many relation between users and servers), running full weeks without a single error (100% availability) while reading and writing thousands of files, tables, memos, indexes and so forth. The busiest server runs 25k user requests per day, that we can estimate over 1.2 billion VFP instructions, without a single error…

>

> Bringing additional value to the existing VFP app is probably more worthy and interesting than rewriting; eg. with FoxInCloud.

>

> (I know I don't really answer your original question, just trying to open new pathes).

>

> Thierry Nivelet

> FoxInCloud

>

> Le 13/03/2019 à 16:45, Fletcher Johnson a écrit :

>> Hi all,

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>> I was asked for a list of current options for someone who has a VFP

>> application and wants to migrate it to a supported language, with the

>> least amount of re-work.

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>> I have seen many options listed, but am sure how compatible the

>> various alternatives are. X# looks promising, but so do some of the

>> others. And some that I thought were good options now appear to be

>> dormant or discontinued. So I thought I would check with you fine

>> folks to see if you know where I might find a list of current

>> alternatives and their level of compatibility.

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>> Thanks,

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>> Fletcher

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>> Fletcher Johnson

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